Jonsered Turbo 2094

[dancan]

Well it seems to have worked out well for both of us, he has a saw that he can use and is happy and I think that I will be happy with a bigger saw.He knows that I will service the 2054 for him for the next 10 years although it was never discussed.
Pioneerguy600

Don't you hate that guarantee forever warranty .

 

[SawTroll]

That is open for debate. It only shares minor things with the Husqvarnas (coil and carb I think). Some say it is a true J-red because it is not a rebadged Husky, Partner etc, while others say it is not because of Partner-like design. A purist would say it is not because it was built after the E-lux take over.

Right - imo they are not pure Jonsereds, but E-lux Jonsereds, because of the Partner Handle design etc.

The last pure Jonsereds was the 910, 510 and 410 (1979).


...but the debate goes on - right Spike??? :biggrinbounce2:

 

[PB]

Influences don't count. There are Partner influences in Stihl chainsaws, that doesn't make them Partners though. I personally think that the 2094 is a true Jonsered. Troll and I think taplinhill will disagree with me on this though.


The debate goes on....................

 

[SawTroll]

Influences don't count. There are Partner influences in Stihl chainsaws, that doesn't make them Partners though. I personally think that the 2094 is a true Jonsered. Troll and I think taplinhill will disagree with me on this though.


The debate goes on....................

Yup, because the handle design etc is a pure Partner design (taken from the P100 etc), that Husky/E-lux imposed on them, as they were unhappy with the design of the 910.

E-lux placed Husky in the lead seat, after they bought all three brands in the late 1970s (more brands later).

 

[PB]

Yup, because the handle design etc is a pure Partner design (taken from the P100 etc), that Husky/E-lux imposed on them, as they were unhappy with the design of the 910.

E-lux placed Husky in the lead seat, after they bought all three brands in the late 1970s (more brands later).

Aside from the handle, what other influences do the 920 and 930 have?

 

[taplinhill]

Influences don't count. There are Partner influences in Stihl chainsaws, that doesn't make them Partners though. I personally think that the 2094 is a true Jonsered. Troll and I think taplinhill will disagree with me on this though.


The debate goes on....................

I will agree that the 2094/2095 are the last to have any Jonsereds lineage. I feel that the "true" Jonsereds ended with the 10's / buy-out, but that doesn't mean I can't like them. I still like to think of Jonsered as the premium brand for those in-the-know

 

[pioneerguy600]

Don't you hate that guarantee forever warranty .

Hi Dan;
Can`t really say I hate the forever warranties as I know that he would willingly pay for any parts it needed and I would not mind repairing it for him as a chat with an older individual usually leaves me with more info gained on their life experiences and some impart tidbits of info that they seldom feel comfortable telling others, all to be kept confidential by me.
Pioneerguy600

 

[pioneerguy600]

I tried cutting some rounds with this saw and must say it feels quite different than my Stihls due to the different approach to the anti vibe setup of these saws. The rear handle connected to the front handle design reminds me of the setup on the larger P series Pioneers. It would take me some time running this saw to get over the amount of movement that the anti vibe springs allow but it does run very smooth with very little vibe feedback through the handles.
Pioneerguy600

 

[dieseldave]

I took some pics of the 394 and 2094 together. They are very, very similar but nowhere near identical. Just another thing I was wrong about... LOL

 

[pioneerguy600]

I took some pics of the 394 and 2094 together. They are very, very similar but nowhere near identical. Just another thing I was wrong about... LOL

Thanks for taking those picts dieseldave, on the outside they do not look similar aqs the handles are set up quite differently, they may share some internal parts.
Pioneerguy600

 

[dieseldave]

Thanks for taking those picts dieseldave, on the outside they do not look similar aqs the handles are set up quite differently, they may share some internal parts.
Pioneerguy600

Under the plastic they are pretty similar, but not as much as I thought- not much is going to interchange, that's for sure. You say yours doesn't have a compression release?!? I can't imagine how you keep a rope in it. Mine has the decomp button and starts real easy.

 

[pioneerguy600]

Under the plastic they are pretty similar, but not as much as I thought- not much is going to interchange, that's for sure. You say yours doesn't have a compression release?!? I can't imagine how you keep a rope in it. Mine has the decomp button and starts real easy.

From what I have read on here these Jonsereds don`t have decomps. Like BIGBORES577 said in an earlier post it is best to bring the piston up to the top dead center then give the pull cord a mighty yank, I drop start it and that uses the saws weight plus the inertia of the drop and pull up on the cord . It starts quite easily this way. Other methods end up with the pull cord stopping abruptly or being ripped out between the fingers and that smarts!! I have let a few guys try to start it here and 5 out of 6 gave up after a couple tries, I could see why the previous owner didn`t want to keep this saw, its not for the timid or uninitiated.
Pioneerguy600

 

[dieseldave]

Mine has one- upper left in the first pic, the blue button is missing but it's there and it works. It's factory, too- no way someone added it later. May be worth it to see if yours has the hole for it, sure makes it easy to start.

 

[pioneerguy600]

Mine has one- upper left in the first pic, the blue button is missing but it's there and it works. It's factory, too- no way someone added it later. May be worth it to see if yours has the hole for it, sure makes it easy to start.[/QUOTE


Tell you what; I will take the covers off tomorrow and do a cleanup as I want to clean this saw up anyway and I will check to see if the cylinder has a place to put a decomp valve in, the cover seems to have a relief hole in the same place your saw has its decomp. Should make starting easier, for others.
Pioneerguy600

 

[pioneerguy600]

I took some time today and opened up the covers to take a look where the decomp valve should be behind the recoil and there is no place there that was intended for a valve to be installed so I guess that only some of the saws came with decomp. The cylinder fins would have to be milled out to mount one on the side of the cylinder. While removing the top cover/air filter and cover for it I have come to the conclusion that this saw was barely run, there is not a speck of sawdust or dirt under there and the airfilter looks brand new.
Pioneerguy600

 

[SawTroll]

Thanks for taking those picts dieseldave, on the outside they do not look similar aqs the handles are set up quite differently, they may share some internal parts.
Pioneerguy600

The 2094 was based on the Partner-inspired 920/930 - the 394xp was a totally new design.

 

[Woodie]

As I understand it, the 2095 added the decomp, so if a 2094 has one, could it be that the cylinder has been replaced?

Of course, I could be wrong...






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[PB]

As I understand it, the 2095 added the decomp, so if a 2094 has one, could it be that the cylinder has been replaced?

Of course, I could be wrong...






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The IPL's I have show a decomp for both models. Maybe it is a mid year introduction?

 

[pioneerguy600]

The IPL's I have show a decomp for both models. Maybe it is a mid year introduction?

Thanks for the info PB.
Pioneerguy600

 

[SawTroll]

The IPL's I have show a decomp for both models. Maybe it is a mid year introduction?

My 1992 catalog show the 2094 with a decomp valve......