Dolmar 5100 Cylinder Problem

[THALL10326]

You know the old saying, " i don't know how they make them so good and sell them so cheap"

Actually i wouldn't have thought twice about paying the 519.00 or maybe a little more even for this saw, myself i have never been one to price shop and then think that i saved a couple bucks and got a better product, it's not like i buy a new saw every year anyway,i'm more concerned with performance than saving a few bucks on a saw.

I agree but never shoot yourself in the foot by undercutting when you don't have too. I have a 5100, tuff little saw and powerfull. If I wanted another one and its has gone up to 519.95 so be it, I'll buy it at 519.95.

 

[bookerdog]

What is interesting with there 100 dollars less across the board at first was closer to 200. I don't think I would of even thought of getting and trying 5100 if they were the same as ms260. I think my first 5100 was 339.00

 

[volks-man]

Grrrrrrrrrr your playing dumb with me and you know it. Simple math. A 5100 is about 120.00 less than a 260PRO Stihl. Across the board Dolmar is about 100.00 to whatever less than Stihl. They (Dolmar) sold around 550,000 units last year. 550,000 times 100.00 is 55 million bucks.

Stihl spent over 50 million in advertising last year saturating the market. Dolmar could do the samething if they had that extra money they are giving away by selling for less.

Thats why they should sell right on par with Stihl. One thing is for certain, Stihl will never sell on par with Dolmar's prices becuase that would cost them their marketing advantage. Husky is wising up fast and look at their prices of late, right on par with who, Stihl. Time Dolmar done the same to compete in the market with ample money to do so...

i am not playing dumb.
i look at things through different eyes.
if dolmar raised their prices by $100 across the board their sales would drop, at least initially. dolmars problems lie not in price but in structure.
yes, they could learn a lot from stihl in that regard.

 

[Fastcast]

I was basing my comparison on the fact that they both sell for right at $400 with an 18" bar. Not comparing cc. I realize the 310 is the bigger cc saw and that's why it pulls ahead. But both can be bought for the same $$$. They both have their advantages to each other. Overall the 5100 is the nicer saw to run in the smaller wood. And if you don't mind the extra couple of seconds in the larger wood, it performs well there also.

Is your muffler modded on your 50cc, 5100....like it is on your 59cc muffler modded 310 you're comparing it to?

 

[THALL10326]

I was basing my comparison on the fact that they both sell for right at $400 with an 18" bar. Not comparing cc. I realize the 310 is the bigger cc saw and that's why it pulls ahead. But both can be bought for the same $$$. They both have their advantages to each other. Overall the 5100 is the nicer saw to run in the smaller wood. And if you don't mind the extra couple of seconds in the larger wood, it performs well there also.

I know what you was saying. What I'm pointing out is the 5100 cc for cc is one mean little saw. Sadly I'm finding out though some don't love the 5100 and its performance enuff to pay what its really worth, shame on them, not you now, I've only caught two so far, :hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

 

[THALL10326]

i am not playing dumb.
i look at things through different eyes.
if dolmar raised their prices by $100 across the board their sales would drop, at least initially. dolmars problems lie not in price but in structure.
yes, they could learn a lot from stihl in that regard.

Well its take alot of money to build a structure. If they don't charge enuff for their product where is the money going to ever come from. I doult seriously their sales would go down if their prices went up. They have a following like Stihl and Husky. They just aren't making the bucks like the other two to build the structure and its at their own choosing, thats why I said I don't understand their pricing structure at all....

 

[volks-man]

I know what you was saying. What I'm pointing out is the 5100 cc for cc is one mean little saw. Sadly I'm finding out though some don't love the 5100 and its performance enuff to pay what its really worth, shame on them, not you now, I've only caught two so far, :hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

you can't have it both ways.
if the dolmar were the same price as the stihl you would then tell me about the stihl dealer network, or the parts availability, or how stihl is the most trusted name in saws by pros.

lets argue one thing at a time.
all else equal, cheaper sell more. all else equal, cheaper and more powerful.....

 

[Fastcast]

I know what you was saying. What I'm pointing out is the 5100 cc for cc is one mean little saw. Sadly I'm finding out though some don't love the 5100 and its performance enuff to pay what its really worth, shame on them, not you now, I've only caught two so far, :hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

No, we just don't love Stihl performance enough to pay their inflated prices!

 

[THALL10326]

What is interesting with there 100 dollars less across the board at first was closer to 200. I don't think I would of even thought of getting and trying 5100 if they were the same as ms260. I think my first 5100 was 339.00

339.00, outragously too cheap............................

 

[THALL10326]

No, we just don't love Stihl performance enough to pay their inflated prices!

Do you love Dolmar performance enuff to pay a Stihl price for it?

(gonna getcha now,hehe)

 

[THALL10326]

you can't have it both ways.
if the dolmar were the same price as the stihl you would then tell me about the stihl dealer network, or the parts availability, or how stihl is the most trusted name in saws by pros.

lets argue one thing at a time.
all else equal, cheaper sell more. all else equal, cheaper and more powerful.....

Ever think maybe those things are the structure you spoke of, they cost money.

If cheaper sells more than how does Stihl sell more for more?? (structure)

 

[Fastcast]

Do you love Dolmar performance enuff to pay a Stihl price for it?

(gonna getcha now,hehe)

How many times I gotta say it King.....I like Dolmars price! I don't like Stihls price. Frankly, I love neither. :taped:

 

[THALL10326]

How many times I gotta say it King.....I like Dolmars price! I don't like Stihls price. Frankly, I love neither. :taped:

Everyone likes Dolmar's price, the big complaint has always been their structure. I'm just baffled how they ever plan on building it selling for less..

 

[Fastcast]

Everyone likes Dolmar's price, the big complaint has always been their structure. I'm just baffled how they ever plan on building it selling for less..

I'll let them figure it out!

ps.....quit working for free Tommy.

 

[Woodie]

Too much fussin' and carryin' on over the same sheeyat on this thread...I think it's high time we change the subject to something that HASN'T been beaten into the ground.

To wit: What is the best color for a Lab. I say it's yellow, and I say anyone that doesn't agree with me is a danm fool!!

And as irrefutable proof, I submit this video:

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We now return you to our regularly scheduled bickering.




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[THALL10326]

Even if the prices were equal, I'd buy the Dolmar because the best saw dealer in my area sells Dolmar. I also prefer the way the Dolmars perform as compared to Stihl.

As far as the lower price goes....momma and dadda didn't raise no fool....the money is always better in my pocket than yours!

Well I take you off my price shopper list and you prove my point, you would pay a higher price for the Dolmar. Many others would as well. Time Dolmar realised that,

 

[THALL10326]

I'll let them figure it out!

ps.....quit working for free Tommy.

This isn't for free, my check is in the mail. I had to get one person to admit they would pay more for Dolmar, thanks Fast, you said you would,LOLOLOLOL

 

[THALL10326]

Too much fussin' and carryin' on over the same sheeyat on this thread...I think it's high time we change the subject to something that HASN'T been beaten into the ground.

To wit: What is the best color for a Lab. I say it's yellow, and I say anyone that doesn't agree with me is a danm fool!!

And as irrefutable proof, I submit this video:

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We now return you to our regularly scheduled bickering.




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Tant no bickering going on. I've decided to put Dolmar on the map. Time I'm done they will have enuff marketing money to go after the big cats and slap em around alittle bit. I suggest you go hide, your one of those cats buddy,hehehehe

 

[aandabooks]

Is your muffler modded on your 50cc, 5100....like it is on your 59cc muffler modded 310 you're comparing it to?

Nope, it's under warranty and I haven't even looked for a spare one on ebay yet. I have pulled the limiter caps and richened the saw up just a bit.

I know what you was saying. What I'm pointing out is the 5100 cc for cc is one mean little saw. Sadly I'm finding out though some don't love the 5100 and its performance enuff to pay what its really worth, shame on them, not you now, I've only caught two so far, :hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

If the Dolmar was $519, I'd buy a 260. I already had a Stihl dealer I am more than happy with. I wouldn't have been willing to try a Dolmar at the same price.

 

[windthrown]

To wit: What is the best color for a Lab. I say it's yellow, and I say anyone that doesn't agree with me is a danm fool!!

Black is the best color for labs. opcorn:

Orange is the best color for saws. opcorn: