Dolmar 5100 Cylinder Problem

[Woodie]

Now, go to Tommie's Tabernacle of Tempting TVs where only high end gear is presented for your selection.

Hah...more like Tommy's 'Snakepit of Sorry Saws.'






.

 

[joatmon]

Poulan used to make good saws, the 335 was a superior machine to the 290/029. It's marketing that sells the 290, weee pecker people see an ad with a hardcore logger type. The one I've seen is the guy in the Ben Davis shirt with a tin of chew on a island in Alaska. He's bragging on his 066.
Mr. TicTac heads to his Stihl dealer to buy an image, til he finds out it's to heavey and costs $1200. On the way to the door he spots the 290, like seeing women on the lake.....looks good from far but far from good. So he brings this rattletrap home and now he's a big tuff logger.... Stihl sold.

Marco,

It must be an ...... uh ..... interesting life if you have stats on saw buyer's johnson sizes by brand. I'm sure that information is useful to you.

Joat

 

[volks-man]

Poulan used to make good saws, the 335 was a superior machine to the 290/029. It's marketing that sells the 290, weee pecker people see an ad with a hardcore logger type. The one I've seen is the guy in the Ben Davis shirt with a tin of chew on a island in Alaska. He's bragging on his 066.
Mr. TicTac heads to his Stihl dealer to buy an image, til he finds out it's to heavey and costs $1200. On the way to the door he spots the 290, like seeing women on the lake.....looks good from far but far from good. So he brings this rattletrap home and now he's a big tuff logger.... Stihl sold.

Marco,

It must be an ...... uh ..... interesting life if you have stats on saw buyer's johnson sizes by brand. I'm sure that information is useful to you.

Joat

funny joat.

what is your serious rebuttle to marco's post?
he does have a valid point, no?

 

[SawTroll]

Black is the best color for labs. opcorn:

Orange is the best color for saws. opcorn:

:agree2:

 

[Fastcast]

a buddy who owns a parts store runs linux. he tells me that he routinely runs without a reboot for weeks. how many windows users can say that.

Not many!....lol....My OSX Macs not only go weeks but months without a reboot and that's with 8-12 programs launched and active, including graphic, memory intensive apps I use for work......OSX's stability is well documented, along with Linux....Windows, well, umm, that's another story. lol

Uh, oh.....forgot to add though, Windows is the market leader so that must make it best!

 

[Marco]

yup, the closer to the living room the 290's storage spot is the smaller the Johnson. I know of one guy kept his 290 on a shelf behind the couch, poor fella.

 

[joatmon]

Poulan used to make good saws, the 335 was a superior machine to the 290/029. It's marketing that sells the 290, weee pecker people see an ad with a hardcore logger type. The one I've seen is the guy in the Ben Davis shirt with a tin of chew on a island in Alaska. He's bragging on his 066.
Mr. TicTac heads to his Stihl dealer to buy an image, til he finds out it's to heavey and costs $1200. On the way to the door he spots the 290, like seeing women on the lake.....looks good from far but far from good. So he brings this rattletrap home and now he's a big tuff logger.... Stihl sold.

Marco,

It must be an ...... uh ..... interesting life if you have stats on saw buyer's johnson sizes by brand. I'm sure that information is useful to you.

Joat

funny joat.

what is your serious rebuttle to marco's post?
he does have a valid point, no?

VM and Marco,

I'll gladly render a serious comment on Marco's post. Now, first, when Marco swerves into "wee wee land", it's hard, no pun intended, to take it serious.

Marco, I think, as I've stated in an earlier post, that Stihl is about branding. They are the P&G of the OPE world. But, notice that Husky is following their lead.

Now, branding usually strives to establish the following characteristics, and I must point out this list is in no way exhaustive.

- positive image,
- easy recognition,
- product consistency,
- wholesomeness,
- dependability,
- completeness.

Now, as a consumer, not as a pro, you get a nice, warm, fuzzy feeling after buying into the brand. It's a "safe" purchases. In my business, there was once a saying, "No one ever got fired for buying IBM". Was IBM the best? In many cases no. Was it good? Yes, in most cases. Did IBM sell a product? Kind of. They actually sold a brand, their support and service as an unseparable part from their product.

Now, this has nothing to do with the size of aforementioned member. It has a lot to do if you're a seasoned pro with preferences, or a homeowner looking for the whole package. A safe buy.

Thanks for your interest and attention,

Joat

 

[joatmon]

yup, the closer to the living room the 290's storage spot is the smaller the Johnson. I know of one guy kept his 290 on a shelf behind the couch, poor fella.

Marco,

Well, you've caused me to reconsider carrying my 029 with me everywhere I go.

Peace,

Joat

 

[Fastcast]

Marco,

Well, you've caused me to reconsider carrying my 029 with me everywhere I go.

Peace,

Joat

If you're going to conceal carry (CCW) that 290 Joat, you'll need one heavy duty IWB/OWB leather holster for that piggy!

 

[Edge & Engine]

a buddy who owns a parts store runs linux. he tells me that he routinely runs without a reboot for weeks. how many windows users can say that.

I run Linux. But I have Windows XP on the work computers (for compatibility). XP over the months gets slower and slower and slower...but my Linux box's speed hasn't changed since the day I installed it.

Mac OSX has a Unix core and Linux is essentially an off shoot of Unix.

A Mac guru can do amazing things with a Mac, just like a Linux guy can. The difference is in the polished Mac GUI that allows beginners to use and enjoy them also.....A genius idea that Linux has apparently not bothered with.

Nah, Linux has plenty of eye candy too...you just have to get the right "distro" if you want to easily enable it.

 

[Fastcast]

I run Linux. But I have Windows XP on the work computers (for compatibility). XP over the months gets slower and slower and slower...but my Linux box's speed hasn't changed since the day I installed it.



Nah, Linux has plenty of eye candy too...you just have to get the right "distro" if you want to easily enable it.

I know it has eye candy too but needs configured and not as user friendly to the amateur users, is all I was saying. It's a good OS for veterans, where as Mac OSX is a great OS for veterans or amateurs!

 

[volks-man]

may i pry?

VM and Marco,

Now, as a consumer, not as a pro, you get a nice, warm, fuzzy feeling after buying into the brand. It's a "safe" purchases. In my business, there was once a saying, "No one ever got fired for buying IBM".

Thanks for your interest and attention,

Joat

on occasion your posts indicate the presence of an intellect and persona that is... well, rather unexpected on a chain saw forum.

might i ask, what do you do for a living joat?

(other Than psychiatry and ministry)

 

[joatmon]

on occasion your posts indicate the presence of an intellect and persona that is... well, rather unexpected on a chain saw forum.

might i ask, what do you do for a living joat?

(other Than psychiatry and ministry)

VM,

I've been in the information systems (computer software) business since 1968. I'm currently a self-employed consultant.

Joat

 

[Fastcast]

on occasion your posts indicate the presence of an intellect and persona that is... well, rather unexpected on a chain saw forum.

might i ask, what do you do for a living joat?

(other Than psychiatry and ministry)

I can see his head swelling as I type! :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[volks-man]

VM,

I've been in the information systems (computer software) business since 1968. I'm currently a self-employed consultant.

Joat

interesting. you remind me of a man named Miles A. he is an interesting cat too.

so i guess you have used those old disks from way back...
my mom told me about these monster discs that were the size of a pizza box!!! i wonder what their capacity was?

 

[joatmon]

I can see his head swelling as I type! :hmm3grin2orange:

FC,

Don't worry. I won't analyze you, condemn you to h&ll, or reveal any information about you.

I remain,

Joat

 

[Fastcast]

FC,

Don't worry. I won't analyze you, condemn you to h&ll, or reveal any information about you.

I remain,

Joat

That's why I love you Stihl maaaaaaaaaan!

 

[THALL10326]

if i could buy a car similar to a vette, that outperformed a vette for less money than a vette. i'd buy that car before the vette.

am i alone?
opcorn:

Awww but if you really wanted the Vette and bought something else because it was cheaper you just bought something you didn't really want in the first place. Now why are you buying things you don't want? If I wanted a Vette I would buy a Vette. Thank goodness I don't want a Vette,LOLOL

No your not alone in your way of thinking, many buy what they don't really want due to price and what they can and can't afford. I don't think that applies to chainsaws that are within a 100 bucks of each other though. In saw terms the majority buy what they want, its the manufacture's job to make them want theirs. Thats what marketing is all about and it costs alot of money. Where does this marketing money come from, from the sale your product. Sell too cheap and you got no marketing money. I firmly believe Dolmar is doing just that and their marketing campaign compared to Stihl and Husky show it clearly. Husky has wised up in a hurry, Dolmar will sooner or later...

 

[sachsmo]

339.00, outragously too cheap............................

In this "economy" nothing is TOO cheap. My 5100 has over 2 years in service and IS the reason when I pick up an 80cc saw it WILL be the 7900.


When I came here 2.5 years ago the little 5100 was just starting to have a following. I can see now that they are worrying some in the buisness. 550,000 units aint chump change, still Stihl is # 1. But you all can remember when GM was THE largest corporation in the world.

When those upstart little Toyotas and Hondas first hit the shore do you really think GM even gave them a second look? We all looked over our 5 foot long hoods and snickered at the little cheap cracker boxes.

When you're # 1 the only possible move is..................................

 

[THALL10326]

In this "economy" nothing is TOO cheap. My 5100 has over 2 years in service and IS the reason when I pick up an 80cc saw it WILL be the 7900.


When I came here 2.5 years ago the little 5100 was just starting to have a following. I can see now that they are worrying some in the buisness. 550,000 units aint chump change, still Stihl is # 1. But you all can remember when GM was THE largest corporation in the world.

When those upstart little Toyotas and Hondas first hit the shore do you really think GM even gave them a second look? We all looked over our 5 foot long hoods and snickered at the little cheap cracker boxes.

When you're # 1 the only possible move is..................................

Awww good. Let me ask you then. You got a 5100, you've run it, you apparently like it. Should it wear out and you go to get another one will you be willing to pay 500.00 for it, simple yes or no. Secondly if that new 7900 cost 899.00 would you still buy it, I'm thinking you would, whatcha say??

Dolmar isn't worrieing Stihl and Husky at all. In the last 5 years Stihl invested 210 million dollars in building, machinery and R&D. They spend half of what the enitre Dolmar company is worth in advertising last year, 50 million. Dolmar is a 100 million dollar company overall. There certainly is nothing there for Stihl to worry about or Husky either. If anyone is worrieing it would have to be Dolmar in this economy. Stihl and Husky can afford to lose alot more market share than Dolmar. Stihl and Husky together have about 75-80%of the USA market. That leaves 20-25% for all the others. If sales slide overall 20% across the board for everyone in these hard times who is going to be hurting, not the big boys.

550,000 units is very good for a company thier size, no question about it. I just think they could do even better if they sold their products on par with the other big two and start putting some bucks in the bank and use it to grow with..