POS MS880 Design

[spacemule]

Yeah, but does it have flippy caps?

 

[STIHLTHEDEERE]

all i've ever seen you do here is try to start a pissin' match.
Stihl's great, husky's junk, dolmar's crap. The list goes on.
I'll give it to ya, stihl makes a good saw. But what about all those 2100's, 285's, 288's, 60's etc. Etc. Etc. That are still running.
You'd probably gripe if we hung you with a new rope.

Andy

reeeaaallllllyyy?????????? Who's gripeing?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 

[STIHLTHEDEERE]

all i've ever seen you do here is try to start a pissin' match.
Stihl's great, husky's junk, dolmar's crap. The list goes on.
I'll give it to ya, stihl makes a good saw. But what about all those 2100's, 285's, 288's, 60's etc. Etc. Etc. That are still running.
You'd probably gripe if we hung you with a new rope.

Andy

are you an environmentalist',or are you just mental?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 

[StihlyinEly]

reeeaaallllllyyy?????????? Who's gripeing?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

are you an environmentalist',or are you just mental?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Well, at least we know STD's favorite punctuation mark.

 

[STIHLTHEDEERE]

well, at least we know std's favorite punctuation mark. :d :d :d

that's right

 

[StihlyinEly]

that's right

Um, wait. It should be: that's right?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[gmax]

Speaking of Mental

are you an environmentalist',or are you just mental?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Oh DEERE, When "Brand Loyalty" transforms into "Blind Loyalty" STD is the end result.. the logical thought process suffers permanent damage.
The only cure is isolation so that the healthy don't become infected with the dreaded STD disease.

 

[teacherman]

i sometimes wonder if in really harsh conditions if a remote back pack or belt mounted filter would help . i sometimes use a remote filter for spraying and they are not that big a hassle . be easy enough to work out a quick connect tube with a spring loaded flapper valve to close it off when the remote filter is not being used . could be handy on a mill or some of the big dry logs .
even on the coast i often need to clean the filter every second tank on my 460 , currently thinking of getting maxi flow from baileys to see if that helps , put a new stihl filter on last week but it could be better . old dead hard wood on the ridges here will take the edge of a chain pretty quick and even very sharp will still send out a lot of fine sawdust . i generally blow all my saws clean with a compressor at the end of every day and have to clean bars regularly as fine sawdust clogs oiler feed . cut up a dense ridge grown bloodwood yesterday that is only 25" across but hard as hell , starting to wonder if it has been hit by lightening and baked, will take the 660 and see if it likes it better.

Sounds like Australian wood is either petrified or somehow mineralized. So the trees are that much different from those here in the States?

Would a carbide tipped chain be a useful investment in wood like that?

We have hedge, or osage orange, as it is called. Amazing firewood, and it won't rot when used for fencing posts. Tough on chains, esp. when dead standing for a while. A buddy of mine made an electric cello out of the stuff.
It does look unique, that's for sure.

 

[ropensaddle]

all you aussies do is whine about your stihl saws. if they are such a bad saw, then why do continue to buy them? i am not trying to start a pissing match here. all we hear is the price is too high,crappy filtration,junk this,junk that. i run all stihl saws,but we sell husky,and i work on husky saws. i can buy them at dealer cost,but i continue to run stihl. in your opinion if stihl is junk,then what is husky?? go buy a husky and run that,then you will know just how it is to own a poor piece of equipment. huskys' are fast,but they will NEVER equal stihl in quality or durability. they have poor marketing,no dealer support,and the parts network is a joke. they have 3 all new models coming out,and they are worse than the ones they are replacing. look at all the 028,034,044,056,076,084 still cutting out there. huskys' are in the dumpster when they are 4-5 yrs. old.

Both my 372's are older than seven years and cut more than twenty stihls. They are pretty much flawless. My 395 is newer never a problem the only husky I have had problems with is my 2101 and it is just starter dogs and is a 80 model. My 200T stihl already has issues in less than a year I will fix it with a new carb I hope but no way a stihl even compares to husky's quality until you get to their low end box store saws.

 

[Anthony_Va.]

Sounds like Australian wood is either petrified or somehow mineralized. So the trees are that much different from those here in the States?

Would a carbide tipped chain be a useful investment in wood like that?

We have hedge, or osage orange, as it is called. Amazing firewood, and it won't rot when used for fencing posts. Tough on chains, esp. when dead standing for a while. A buddy of mine made an electric cello out of the stuff.
It does look unique, that's for sure.

Osage orange. Looks yellow to me, lol. Inside anyways. I agree, some tough stuff. Makes awesome firewood. I hate the big hedgeapples lying around everywhere too. I cut them whenever I can. Hard to maul split too. I use a splitter on them. Stuff twist as it grows or something. It'll throw sparks from a chain when it's dry.

 

[tdi-rick]

Sounds like Australian wood is either petrified or somehow mineralized. So the trees are that much different from those here in the States?

Would a carbide tipped chain be a useful investment in wood like that?

We have hedge, or osage orange, as it is called. Amazing firewood, and it won't rot when used for fencing posts. Tough on chains, esp. when dead standing for a while. A buddy of mine made an electric cello out of the stuff.
It does look unique, that's for sure.

Some of the trees in South America are harder, but to give you an idea, on the Janka scale of hardness Hedge falls somewhere in the lower middle compared to a lot of what we cut.

I've posted numbers in the past, i'll see if I can dig them up.

 

[Anthony_Va.]

Both my 372's are older than seven years and cut more than twenty stihls. They are pretty much flawless. My 395 is newer never a problem the only husky I have had problems with is my 2101 and it is just starter dogs and is a 80 model. My 200T stihl already has issues in less than a year I will fix it with a new carb I hope but no way a stihl even compares to husky's quality until you get to their low end box store saws.

I can agree with all of that except the ones better than the other part. I like to think a man can't go wrong with either. My 066 which I sold to my boss just because my CAD told me I needed a new 660, never had one day of downtime in 16yrs. Had two trees dropped on it and has been erked from my hand pinched in a tree ad thrown of a 10 ft bank. Never any damage except a crank in the rear handle.

Stihl and Husky make quality saws. I can't honestly say one is any better than the other. I run Husky's too though, at work. Thinking about a 372. Will prolly have one in the future.

 

[Anthony_Va.]

What makes the trees down under so hard? Climate?

 

[ropensaddle]

I can agree with all of that except the ones better than the other part. I like to think a man can't go wrong with either. My 066 which I sold to my boss just because my CAD told me I needed a new 660, never had one day of downtime in 16yrs. Had two trees dropped on it and has been erked from my hand pinched in a tree ad thrown of a 10 ft bank. Never any damage except a crank in the rear handle.

Stihl and Husky make quality saws. I can't honestly say one is any better than the other. I run Husky's too though, at work. Thinking about a 372. Will prolly have one in the future.

Maybe you can't I know thal a hoss live close lol , but
I can, pro husky is better than stihl.:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[parrisw]

Maybe you can't I know thal a hoss live close lol , but
I can, pro husky is better than stihl.:hmm3grin2orange:

ha ha. LOL. You wana get **** done on time! Run a husky.

 

[tdi-rick]

Found some numbers.

Osage Orange (Hedge) runs 9.1kN Janka.
This is similar to a number of our softer eucalypts like Blue Gum. http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=82163&highlight=janka&page=3
River Red Gum that we often talk of here is 10kN and we consider that to cut like balsa compared to Iron Bark (16.3 Janka) and a common timber in my parts, Yellow & White Box which are harder/tougher again but make brilliant firewood, if you can get the fire hot enough.

 

[porky616]

hey rick have you got the janka thingy for mulga, cant think of the botanical name. that stuffs hard enough to give a dozer a flat track when it splinters. i wont cut it with any of my saws. i use a mates concrete saw with a carbide blade.

 

[Justsaws]

I think it is time for all you extra hard, dry, dirty wood cutters of the world to start making your own air filters. No panty hose though, unless you include some sort of skirt. Get all crafty on the project and make it freaking huge.If you drill some holes, swap out some threaded rod you can mount up multiple Stihl filters and cover them with all kinds of prefilters.

MP or cut off saw setups are goooood.

Hog out the clutch cover so it does not gather the oil soaked fines. Literally make it breathe better. Perhaps ask around for a already broken one since they are $$$$$$$$$.

You could be doing modifications that are actually useful.

Husqvarnas more reliable, people are sooooooo funny. Some folks should not own some brands. The brand is not the problem.

 

[tdi-rick]

hey rick have you got the janka thingy for mulga, cant think of the botanical name. that stuffs hard enough to give a dozer a flat track when it splinters. i wont cut it with any of my saws. i use a mates concrete saw with a carbide blade.

No mate, sorry.
The only numbers I have are for commercially used timbers.
I don't think I've even found any numbers for Yellow or White Box either, and they make Iron Bark look soft when crosscutting dead logs.

Bob posted some numbers for Tuart and Gidgee in that thread I linked to (i think)

 

[husq2100]

first of all HUSKY SUCKS :biggrinbounce2:

2nd, its not just the hardness but the sand and grit in the timber as it grows a slow hard life....plus the fact that alot can be in flood regions that see huge changes in water level (once in a life time lol) which carries with it crap etc...

3rd Tdi-rick knows a thing or 3 about filters and oil....trust me

4th did I say HUSKY SUCKS :deadhorse: