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To me it sounded like the 2153 in Masterminds video had more torque than the 550. The 2153 sounded like it's RPS held better and easier.
 
Here's what I recommend for the best running and strongest 50cc saw currently on the market.

  1. 346XP or 2153
  2. Increased compression
  3. "Mild numbered" porting, very easy to over port
  4. Complete 357/359 intake tract
  5. Walbro 199 carb with the "Tree Monkey" fix
  6. Unlimited coil
  7. Dual ported muffler

Brad , could you elaborate on that 'monkey walbro a little more ?
 
To me it sounded like the 2153 in Masterminds video had more torque than the 550. The 2153 sounded like it's RPS held better and easier.

The point of posting the video wasn't to say that the 550 was the strongest or best, I just wanted to show that they do respond to proper porting very well.
 
The 2153 has not seen any wood since that video. (I did start it right before I drained it and put it on the shelf) Too purdy to use. Think I read somewhere that the 550 had very mild port work which kinda stole my 2153's thunder.
 
My point, is that the 550 starts out significantly stronger than the 346, yet ends up slightly behind the 346. IMHO, the gains over a MM aren't worth $250. A MMd 550 is the best value. A ported 346 is the strongest overall if you want to spend the money. Unfortunately, that option won't be around much longer, at least not in a new saw.
 
My point, is that the 550 starts out significantly stronger than the 346, yet ends up slightly behind the 346. IMHO, the gains over a MM aren't worth $250. A MMd 550 is the best value. A ported 346 is the strongest overall if you want to spend the money. Unfortunately, that option won't be around much longer, at least not in a new saw.

Says who? They's been a few ported on here to date. How many 346s have been done and how long have they been done?
 
I think I can get even more out of a 550 than I did on the last one. I left a lot on the table.
 
Says who? They's been a few ported on here to date. How many 346s have been done and how long have they been done?

All I can do is comment what I have seen personally and the few that we've seen ported here. I have not said that they never will be as strong as a 346. I can only comment on the here and now. That's all that matters anyway. I'm not looking for an arguement. I'm simply reporting what has been found so far. The OP is looking for a new saw, and I'm trying to help him by giving him the latest info I know, based on both personal experience, and that reported here by others.
 
All I can do is comment what I have seen personally and the few that we've seen ported here. I have not said that they never will be as strong as a 346. I can only comment on the here and now. That's all that matters anyway. I'm not looking for an arguement. I'm simply reporting what has been found so far.

Did you run the one I ported????? John's maybe?
 
All I can do is comment what I have seen personally and the few that we've seen ported here. I have not said that they never will be as strong as a 346. I can only comment on the here and now. That's all that matters anyway. I'm not looking for an arguement. I'm simply reporting what has been found so far.

True Brad, I agree to a point. Nothing against anybody here, But I doubt very seriously that the first couple tries at porting any new saw will be the maximum potential. I think it takes a few times to see what likes what... just my opinion anyways.



I guess I'll have to wait a few years before I say '' I told ya so. '' :msp_wink::laugh::laugh:


No arguing from me bud...everyone's opinion is right in their own mind!:)
 
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True Brad, I agree to a point. Nothing against anybody here, But I doubt very seriously that the first couple tries at porting any new saw will be the maximum potential. I think it takes a few times to see what likes what... just my opinion anyways.



I guess I'll have to wait a few years before I say '' I told ya so. '' :msp_wink::laugh::laugh:


No arguing from me bud...everyone's opinion is right in their own mind!:)

I'm not disagreeing with you at all. All we have is the here and now, with what we know right now. Based on that information, the 346 is the strongest ported 50cc saw. Will that change? I guarantee you that it will. Will it be the 550? It very well may be. However, that's not the case right now.
 
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. All we have is the here and now, with what we know right now. Based on that information, the 346 is the strongest ported 50cc saw. Will that change? I guarantee you that it will. Will it be the 550? It very well may be. However, that's not the case right now.

But you are only going by the one that in my opinion you ####ed up beyond repair. It kills me the way you spout #### off like it's a fact based on very limited info. Just because you didn't get good gains by over-porting a 550 does not mean that they aren't there.

I feel better now. :clap:
 
But you are only going by the one that in my opinion you ####ed up beyond repair. It kills me the way you spout #### off like it's a fact based on very limited info. Just because you didn't get good gains by over-porting a 550 does not mean that they aren't there.

I feel better now. :clap:

Well......I guess I'm not the only one that felt that way :laugh::laugh:. That cylinder had the dog piss ground out of it.... especially the piston too :msp_w00t:.
 
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