Does any company offer 40:1 premix?

[svk]

You ever see Tom and Bill in the same room?

LOL!

In defense of SCWT he's new to the hobby and posts lots of progress pics. I only recall HB posting pics of two different saws through his multitude of posts, most of which were started because he's bored.

 

[cuinrearview]

LOL!

In defense of SCWT he's new to the hobby and posts lots of progress pics. I only recall HB posting pics of two different saws through his multitude of posts, most of which were started because he's bored.

Meh.... similar google skills...

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

I can’t disagree with you Bob because you are right, but I have to say you are the cheekiest bugger I know, but for some reason I don’t have Ill feelings towards you and I don’t know why. I need more dirt on you to give you some back!

There is no cheek involved at all- merely stating fact.
How many tanks of fuel do you honestly see yourself putting through all of your saws per week? per month? Per Year?
In particular the 07S and the 076 that you certainly do not need to cut carving material, but purchased to scratch some kind of itch for big grey and orange lumps.
For your carving gathering trips you used an MS180 to cut prunings into transportable lengths, so you could probably get away with 3-5 litres of mixed fuel per trip.
The rest of the year you could mix one litre at a time, fill the saw of choice- walk outside and cut cookies off of the lump of Jarrah sitting there, polish the saw off when it cools down and return it to your shelf.
You do not need cans of premix sitting waiting.

 

[Vintage Engine Repairs]

I don’t want to be moxin

There is no cheek involved at all- merely stating fact.
How many tanks of fuel do you honestly see yourself putting through all of your saws per week? per month? Per Year?
In particular the 07S and the 076 that you certainly do not need to cut carving material, but purchased to scratch some kind of itch for big grey and orange lumps.
For your carving gathering trips you used an MS180 to cut prunings into transportable lengths, so you could probably get away with 3-5 litres of mixed fuel per trip.
The rest of the year you could mix one litre at a time, fill the saw of choice- walk outside and cut cookies off of the lump of Jarrah sitting there, polish the saw off when it cools down and return it to your shelf.
You do not need cans of premix sitting waiting.

i don’t want to be messing with having to get pump fuel every time I want to use the saw and mixing and measuring though Bob, when instead I can have a can that lasts 5 years ready to go on my shelf. If I wanted to go to the pump and mix my own I wouldn’t have started this post

 

[full chizel]

Huskybill will be posting a new thread on this next week

His latest thread

 

[Vintage Engine Repairs]

Did you see his latest thread?

What’s this about Huskybill? I’m so late to the party here on Arborist site!

 

[svk]

What’s this about Huskybill? I’m so late to the party here on Arborist site!

Old Bill is a thread starting sumgun

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

I don’t want to be moxin

i don’t want to be messing with having to get pump fuel every time I want to use the saw and mixing and measuring though Bob, when instead I can have a can that lasts 5 years ready to go on my shelf. If I wanted to go to the pump and mix my own I wouldn’t have started this post

Best you pop into immigration and hand back your man card, jump on a plane back to whingeville then.
How inconvenient can it be to have a fuel can with 5 litres in it- measure out a litre and add 25 mils of oil to it? Bet your Kiwi Mrs could handle that task while doing several others at the same time.
So five years supply sitting on the shelf beside the saws- is that a one gallon can of premix?

 

[OM617YOTA]

I switched to Trufuel too. Just a homeowner firewood guy, I burn less saw gas all year than some of the guys here burn in a day. Burn too little fuel for me to care about the cost, and my equipment will sit for months or even a year without being run. With Trufuel, no big deal, no special preps, just set it on the shelf and on to the next thing.

Best part, Amazon delivers the stuff straight to my house. Realize I'm low on fuel, pull out my phone, and two minutes later that problem is solved and I can get on to other things. If I went through a two gallon can of pump gas before it went bad, you bet I'd mix my own, but that just ain't the reality of the situation. If that makes me a kitty cat, so be it.

I have considered buying the four stroke Trufuel so I can use up my stock of MX2T. I have a gallon or so of MX2T left, enough to make 50 years of two stroke mix at my current usage rate.

 

[The Lorax]

I buy Aspen 4T which is straight petrol, mix it with my oil of choice @40:1.
I don't have it for 5 years though, its only used in my saws, other lesser rpm 2 strokes like hedge trimmers and grass trimmers get pump petrol and the same oil.
Has anyone ever fitted a Walbro K3- WYTA stainless steel and Mylar diaphragm to their Carbs to prevent the impulse diaphragm going bad from fuel?

 

[sean donato]

I have in my 1/5 scale rc truck. If I can find one for my 359 it will get the spiral diaphragm as well. I like them, not the price. The real question you have to ask yourself is, do I want to rebuild half my carb when it's time for a kit? And it can be a bit of a pain to keep lined up right. Other then that no complaints.
To the op. At work we use stihl mix fuel(because the local dealer blamed pump gas on our issues, not the issue found a new dealer) we go through gallons of fuel a week. Once our stihl reserve is used up well likely go back to pump gas for the road crew. The parks guy will likely get true fuel. (What he ran before we started having issues with our dealer)I personally just mix my own. Klotz super techniplate and add some stabil marine to my fuel. I have basically 0 fuel related issues.

 

[trains]

I mix my own so I know exactly that it is correct, not relying on someone else to get it right, or sort of right.

 

[Vintage Engine Repairs]

Best you pop into immigration and hand back your man card, jump on a plane back to whingeville then.
How inconvenient can it be to have a fuel can with 5 litres in it- measure out a litre and add 25 mils of oil to it? Bet your Kiwi Mrs could handle that task while doing several others at the same time.
So five years supply sitting on the shelf beside the saws- is that a one gallon can of premix?

Premix can sit in the carb without problems. That alone is worth it to me. Bob you keep mixing your own, I’m happy with premix. I use to race motocross and mix my own, weekly, but I don’t use the saws enough or want pump fuel sitting in the carb for months at a time in between uses. Also a litre may or may not be enough and then it will likely require a second trip, or wasted fuel each time. End of Bob, this thread is about Premix options.

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

Premix can sit in the carb without problems. That alone is worth it to me. Bob you keep mixing your own, I’m happy with premix. I use to race motocross and mix my own, weekly, but I don’t use the saws enough or want pump fuel sitting in the carb for months at a time in between uses. Also a litre may or may not be enough and then it will likely require a second trip, or wasted fuel each time. End of Bob, this thread is about Premix options.

Where do you get this idea the premix sits in carbs better than self mixed with Australasian fuel- not American fuel?
You better tell your good mate Trains enough is enough as well....... best you just import your own premix and carry on painting your nails then.

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

I mix my own so I know exactly that it is correct, not relying on someone else to get it right, or sort of right.

Yep, I believe there is a thread down the page a bit about a new Husqvarna being fried by canned premix- guess there is no such thing as the perfect fuel....... unless you mix your own fresh poison eh?

 

[trains]

The 2t oil I use has fuel stabilisers in it, ( pretty sure most do anyway) and if you get quality fuel, thats fresh, ie high turn over station, put it in an airtight tin, I think you will be fine.
ive looked at the stihl pre mixed fuel tins, and it states that once open its shelf life is limited anyway.

Yeah, I get it that those pre mixed fuels are different than normal petrol, bit like coleman fuel so to speak, and they can have benefits of having a longer shelf life un opened.
Have some up your sleeve put away, and then mix up some normal stuff and enjoy.

I can go thru 10lts in a session, or not use any for quite some time, always have some ready, as its been very windy today, almost expect a call from farming friends to come and take stuff off of fence lines, or sheds, yards etc.

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

The 2t oil I use has fuel stabilisers in it, ( pretty sure most do anyway) and if you get quality fuel, thats fresh, ie high turn over station, put it in an airtight tin, I think you will be fine.
ive looked at the stihl pre mixed fuel tins, and it states that once open its shelf life is limited anyway.

Yeah, I get it that those pre mixed fuels are different than normal petrol, bit like coleman fuel so to speak, and they can have benefits of having a longer shelf life un opened.
Have some up your sleeve put away, and then mix up some normal stuff and enjoy.

I can go thru 10lts in a session, or not use any for quite some time, always have some ready, as its been very windy today, almost expect a call from farming friends to come and take stuff off of fence lines, or sheds, yards etc.

So opened would be when it is sitting in the carb, not only when sitting in the can?
Mind you, this is a thread about premix- the fact all fuel added to two stroke chainsaw fuel tanks is premixed, not a seperate tank for oil and one for gas, mixed within the machine as with some other two stroke machines, but mixed together before adding the mixed contents to the fuel tank, I wonder how one might just define premixed?

 

[Huskybill]

There ya go you had to wake me up lol.
Mix ratio? A ratio rite cup is the best tool to have, what ratio to use to each his own. But I run 38:1 in everything.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/RATIO-RITE-MEASURER/29356407
How long does mix last. My dealer said 30 days if we mix it. I’m thinking of adding seafoam to the mix. I’ve used seafoam in the winter for storage, it will foil plugs in the spring.

Don’t forget to shake the can of mix to stir the oil and gas up again. With 50:1 / 40:1 there’s very little oil in the cans or jugs.

Here in the states when my mix gets old or I need a full can of fresh mix I use the older 2T mix in my log splitter.

 

[trains]

So opened would be when it is sitting in the carb, not only when sitting in the can?
Mind you, this is a thread about premix- the fact all fuel added to two stroke chainsaw fuel tanks is premixed, not a seperate tank for oil and one for gas, mixed within the machine as with some other two stroke machines, but mixed together before adding the mixed contents to the fuel tank, I wonder how one might just define premixed?

Um yeah, I was talking about the fact that the pre made stuff (made for you by whatever company) often has claims of longer shelf life before its opened, but once its opened its life is claimed as much less.
I just buy fresh fuel and mix my own, have used mix that is quite old, but we dont have any ethanol mix here, and keep the fuel in proper sealed containers, it worked fine.

Not sure what all the fuss is about.

I will continue to mix my own, that way I have full control over the ratio and its age. if others want to buy pre made/ mixed fuel, and they are happy with the cost and what benefits it may or may not give, well thats their choice.

Had a few bikes that had oil injection too, miss them.

honestly we should be more concerned over the bs and lies china is pulling with the world than oil fuel ratios, tho if they start up some *&% in the shipping lanes around the phillipines, then maybe those with sealed pre made mix might be better off LOL, as at least they have fuel.

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

Um yeah, I was talking about the fact that the pre made stuff (made for you by whatever company) often has claims of longer shelf life before its opened, but once its opened its life is claimed as much less.
I just buy fresh fuel and mix my own, have used mix that is quite old, but we dont have any ethanol mix here, and keep the fuel in proper sealed containers, it worked fine.

Not sure what all the fuss is about.

I will continue to mix my own, that way I have full control over the ratio and its age. if others want to buy pre made/ mixed fuel, and they are happy with the cost and what benefits it may or may not give, well thats their choice.

Had a few bikes that had oil injection too, miss them.

honestly we should be more concerned over the bs and lies china is pulling with the world than oil fuel ratios, tho if they start up some *&% in the shipping lanes around the phillipines, then maybe those with sealed pre made mix might be better off LOL, as at least they have fuel.

Don't get me wrong- you get no arguement from my direction and I agree with what you say- just trying to clear up some misconceptions held in other corners.