038M recoil free-wheels 10" before catching

[irhunter]

When I bought my 038, I found the pulley pocket, where the pawl was mounted, to be hogged out. The pawl looked good.

I switched the pawl over to the unused pocket. Now, maybe half the time, the recoil free-wheels 10", or so, before catching.

Did I do something wrong while switching the pawl? Do I need a new pawl? Or....?

Thanks,

Roy

 

[Mad Professor]

Might need a pawl and/or spring clip. My IPL shows two types of pawls and rotors, but no part # for the rotors, just a rotor kit for newer rotor/pawl. I don't have the service bulletins. change happened at ser# X 15 378 613

What does pawl do when you pull and release the starter rope with the housing off? Does the pawl move outward as soon as you pull the rope? If not suspect the spring/pawl.

Also I think it can be fitted with dual pawls using a 044/046 type spring clip?

 

[ballisticdoughnut]

Might need a pawl and/or spring clip. My IPL shows two types of pawls and rotors, but no part # for the rotors, just a rotor kit for newer rotor/pawl. I don't have the service bulletins. change happened at ser# X 15 378 613

What does pawl do when you pull and release the starter rope with the housing off? Does the pawl move outward as soon as you pull the rope? If not suspect the spring/pawl.

Also I think it can be fitted with dual pawls using a 044/046 type spring clip?

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You are correct, dual pawls can be installed in the 038 rope pulley. I’ve done it on both of mine. Did the same on my 026 and MS250 as well.

 

[HarleyT]

You need to bend the wire/clip inward so it grips the post tighter.

 

[HarleyT]

That washer looks like it may be a problem too. Not the right one, likely too thick.

 

[irhunter]

Some of the time, it works as it should. It always works correctly when it's off the saw. Go figure,

You need to bend the wire/clip inward so it grips the post tighter.

OK. Bend wire and look for, or buy, thinner washer.

Thanks.

 

[HarleyT]

Yeah, the Stihl washer is incredibly thin.

Part #1118 162 8935

 

[irhunter]

I think the washer I have is the correctly-thin one: .51mm

But, I now see the clip is quite worn where it contacts the stud. I'll get a new one with my next Stihl parts order.

I will report back.

Thanks, all.

Roy

 

[stihltech]

Replace the pawl and pawl spring. Clean stud where pawl spring fits. Problem solved. Normal pawl and spring recoil maintenance.

 

[irhunter]

I dressed the clip where it is worn and re-bent. Recoil is working as it should.

I'll still replace the clip with my next parts order.

 

[cookies]

Anyone know the part# for the 038 dual pawl spring clip? I seem to be struggling to find it.

 

[Woodslasher]

I don't recall the p/n but when I converted my 056 I got the dual clip for an 066.

 

[hotshot]

1124-195-7200

https://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/starter-experiment-conversion-works-great.146770/