084 Differences and Info

[Lakeside53]

Andy weight of PHO of a MS880 is 22.3LBS flush handle, 084 same PHO 20.7LBS, 088 same PHO 21.8LBS.

I was comparing the MS880 and 084, yes I have lifted and ran both. and could feel the weight difference from the get go. I know after running either for any amount of time the extra weight of the 880 wouldn't matter anyways, but there is a notable bulk of the 880 sitting beside the 084, the 084 seems more streamed lined. I wouldn't kick any of them out of the garage though.

084 20.7LBS 8.6bhp

088 21.8LBS 8.7bhp

MS880 22.3lbs 8.6bhp

The HP % I threw out was just to get Brad reved up

Be careful with your weights.. The 880 didn't gain 0.5lb over 088 with the change of the fuel caps... Put all three saws on a scale with or without fluids...

The real difference in the 088/084 is the increased max torgue of the 088 . Original comparison data is in the pdf a few posts back

 

[Cut4fun]

I got all my info on the MS880 straight from stihl on the weights. Link below. Weights for 088 and 084 came from your link, same one I got.

http://www.stihlusa.com/chainsaws/MS880.html

 

[Cut4fun]

I also have a site showing the 084 even lighter then the stihl site in side by side comparisions with the 088. But I still used the heaver weight listed on the stihl site for the 084. It was .4 lighter listed on a non-stihl site with all stihl specs listed.

084 8.6 bhp 9.0 kg (Where I used 9.4 kg from stihl site)

088 8.7bhp 9.9 kg

 

[B_Turner]

Hang 12 lbs of 50 inch Canon bar and a chain on a 880 or 3120 and the powerhead alone will seem pretty light.

 

[Cut4fun]

I will pass BT, I picked up a friends GB Titanium 42" bar just for a 660 and about **** myself.
Hanging on the end of those bad boys wouldn't be to my likings at all.
To much like real work.


Andy (Lakeside) what exactly is the difference in these 2 adjuster kits for 084-088?

1124 007 1008

1124 007 1007

 

[Stihl 041S]

Cutforfun;
Didn't you run the 60" on a 066 at the Ohio GTG?

 

[Cut4fun]

Cutforfun;
Didn't you run the 60" on a 066 at the Ohio GTG?

Nope I sure didn't Sir, wasn't enough saw behind it for me to try running a 60".
Wish I would have tried the 60" bar long ways making curly's like I did with the 84 and just a 36" 404 though.
Seeing them Bucking with the 60" in 15" wood was :hmm3grin2orange: though.

 

[Stihl 041S]

Cutforfun;the only large mount I have now is a 16", I'm looking for others, is there a size I should watch for you?
Rob

 

[Cut4fun]

No, but Thanks for the offer 041S.
What do you run the Big Stihl mount bars on?
If you need some leads for Big Stihl mount bars in 3/8 063 hollar in a pm or 404. Also know of some 3/8 050 stuff for the Big stihl mounts.

 

[Cut4fun]

Brad do you know you missed a used 084 cylinder for BIN $45 + shipping. I wouldn't sale my good ones for double that. Man I wish I would have seen it before the guys that buy all the stuff on ebay when they can (about 4 of them buy all the 084 stuff).

 

[blsnelling]

Just came up today? That's what i get for working a little:bang:

Found it. Now doesn't that just suck.

 

[Stihl 041S]

Cutforfun;I have a running 051 and am building a couple of 075's. And back at ya:Thanks for the offer. I just wait for things to come around, the meds help. Thats how I got the 60" bar.

rob

 

[Stihl 041S]

Brad;
14 pages and you haven't started building yet!!!
Did you read Sthl paint needs to dry a month for gas noit to cut it. I think in Andy' 056 rebuild thread, not sure.
Rob

 

[blsnelling]

Hey, I resemble that statement. I gots a tank don'ts I?

 

[Stihl 041S]

I think its great,usually by now people are pi$$ing in the snow drawing territory lines about different makes of saws. Maybe it will stay like it is, like Lakes 056 build. Well worth it.
Rob

 

[Gumnuts]

Just came up today? That's what i get for working a little:bang:

Found it. Now doesn't that just suck.

Show me the link -didn't see it ,have,net/phone alert for favorate searches

Still waiting on hone ,have been reading up all i can on honing ,
cleaning -muriatic acid/ transmission fluid.
AND
plating- Nikasil / Gilardoni with Gilnisil - do they really just use builders silicone
?

http://aprillaforum.com.forums/archive/index,php?t-108317.html

http://www.aa1car/library/2002/eb110242.htm

Hmm...just got offered another two 84 fixes.He's gotta get back to me on price and condition.Where theres a will there's ......no this has gotta stop.umpkin2: NO NO NO ....hmm.....maybe.umpkin2: umpkin2:

HEY ULTRA - WHAT'S THE P/N ON THOSE RUBBER WRENCH MOUNTS

 

[04ultra]

HEY ULTRA - WHAT'S THE P/N ON THOSE RUBBER WRENCH MOUNTS

1128-891-8600 ...list is like $3.95


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[Gumnuts]

Thanks.
Appreciate the saw pics too.Their upkeep is a credit to you.

 

[Lakeside53]

I also have a site showing the 084 even lighter then the stihl site in side by side comparisions with the 088. But I still used the heaver weight listed on the stihl site for the 084. It was .4 lighter listed on a non-stihl site with all stihl specs listed.

084 8.6 bhp 9.0 kg (Where I used 9.4 kg from stihl site)

088 8.7bhp 9.9 kg

That was my point... even Stihl weighed them differently at different times fluids, not fluids, sidecovers, no side covers and whatever. You need to put them all on scales at the same time and conditions.

In any case, I like the 088... There's reasons why they added extra airflow for cooling. Some of the increase in weight is the cast muffler -an OSHA issue from the mid 90's... and some is the beefed up crankcase.


and.... it's all in the torque! 7.5 verses 8nm... 6.66666666666666667% increase...

God help me - I'm starting to sound like Sawtroll...

 

[Lakeside53]

Andy (Lakeside) what exactly is the difference in these 2 adjuster kits for 084-088?

1124 007 1008

1124 007 1007

Not sure.. the 1007 is NLA - replaced by the 1008. Some change to make it better no doubt.