Any thoughts or opinions on this chinese saw?

[hamish]

Their "Quality Team" is absolutely on-site 24/7/365. Shouldn't be any need for our guys from the States to be there 100% of the time since the Chinese supplier demonstrated capability before any contract was signed and all parties involved agreed to the exact terms stated in the contract. When you sign up for self-certification, a pretty common thing in the auto industry, you shouldn't require constant policing by the customer to ensure you provide the agreed upon deliverables. When you don't live up to your end of the agreement, it's usually the kiss of death. Kinda why we're currently working on bringing one prarticular component back to this side of the pond. The 40% fallout rate on the Chinese components is unacceptable and their inability to implement permanent corrective actions to eliminate the problems was all too painfully evident. The good news is we'll be hiring to staff up for the U.S. production launch.

Your QC team should be there 24/7/365. The Chinese supplier in question that demonstrated the cabability................most likely after being awarded the contract outsourced some of its production.

The only way to control the quality is to be there all the time or own the factory and yet again be there all the time, plain and simple, they dont care about the contract in the least, they have many more merchants pounding on there doors. They have already made how many hundreds of percentages on the goods sold to date.

The industrial complexes of the new world are very different than they were 100 years ago, as are the to be super powers of the world. Understanding history, economics and geo politics can give one a much better view. A better understanding gives us room to make changes and improve our own economies.

 

[hamish]

Here's what you get with little or no regulations.

Pollution in China Goes 'Off the Charts'

Just like the western industrial complex, up until how many years ago? There practices now are the same as ours were before.

Edit. If one where to look at the EU system most of you would think it is over-regulation, same principle, we are all just on different rungs of the ladder.



Back to saws, why not, so many are running them crappy aftermarket made in china cylinders with good success, are they that crappy? The saw in question is less than $200, buy one see how long it goes, might be as nice as one of them Earthquake saws!

 

[tld400]

Yeah, no.

Gates came from at least an upper middle class background -- his father was prominent lawyer, his mother was serving on state university board by the time he was going to Harvard. It's his mom who introduced him to Warren Buffet.

Zuckerberg probably came from the most modest, but still decidely upper middle class background. His parents after all sent him to exclusive boarding schools & Harvard.

Trump's family was rich, no question about it. Most of his money today after his businesses were all sucking pond water and he was hocked up to his ears in the 90s came from the $400M he inherited from daddy in '99.

I think in this world it takes money and power to make alot of money and get more power. Its almost impossable to start with nothing and get to the top.

 

[camr]

Your QC team should be there 24/7/365. The Chinese supplier in question that demonstrated the cabability................most likely after being awarded the contract outsourced some of its production.

The only way to control the quality is to be there all the time or own the factory and yet again be there all the time, plain and simple, they dont care about the contract in the least, they have many more merchants pounding on there doors. They have already made how many hundreds of percentages on the goods sold to date.

The industrial complexes of the new world are very different than they were 100 years ago, as are the to be super powers of the world. Understanding history, economics and geo politics can give one a much better view. A better understanding gives us room to make changes and improve our own economies.

You're not getting the point. THEY knew the scope of work. THEY knew the parameters. THEY knew the deliverables. THEY knew the quality requirements. THEY signed up to meet all of those terms without outside supervision. THEY FAILED! Why should we have to put Quality Assurance people in their plant? We don't have to do that with the German suppliers. We don't have to do that with the Mexican suppliers. Good Lord, even the Canadians don't have to be babysat 24/7. We're in business to produce products that can be sold at a profit, not to facilitate an exchange of cultural awareness. If we have to eat up any cost save by stationing our people in their facility, we might as well bring the work home. THAT'S what we're doing. Oh, and if the supplier did sub-contract work to another source, well, clear violation of the contract they signed. Just one more reason to fire 'em!

BTW, this rant is officially over. I won't wallow in the mud.