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angelo c
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sunfish,

What do you split?

I've tried kinetic splitters on a few things.
all elm, some hickory , black locust and most of the nasty crotches of most things are not split well or not at all so they get left in a giant pile for a regular splitter to split.
You are totally correct planning on each split makes a difference.

Guess it's like anything though speed VS brute force and each has a place.

woody,
sunfish is correct on the SS. you can split almost anything if you think of it as a axe and not a hammer. read the knots, expect some kick ( be carefull **** happens) and make sure you have the push rod against a solid flat section of split and it will halve it. Crotches-same thing place the Y at the wedge side and halve it then place the Y flattest, straightest side against the ram.
SSplit...so easy even a caveman can be efficient with it.

Harry,
wait till you see how often you have to fill the gas tank too( almost never). its almost comical how long it runs and how much wood it puts on the deck with a gallon of gas.

only wish is it had a log lift
 
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sunfish,

What do you split?

I've tried kinetic splitters on a few things.
all elm, some hickory , black locust and most of the nasty crotches of most things are not split well or not at all so they get left in a giant pile for a regular splitter to split.
You are totally correct planning on each split makes a difference.

Guess it's like anything though speed VS brute force and each has a place.

I'm splitting white, red and black oak mostly, some hickory and red elm. 15-20 cords a year. The piss elm stays in the woods to rot, I hate that stuff! Knots are never a problem for my SS and crotches are no problem if done 'right'.

The SS isn't for everyone, but it's the best piece of firewood equipment I have every owned, used or seen used.

:pumpkin2:
 
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I'm splitting white, red and black oak mostly, some hickory and red elm. 15-20 cords a year. The piss elm stays in the woods to rot, I hate that stuff! Knots are never a problem for my SS and crotches are no problem if done 'right'.

The SS isn't for everyone, but it's the best piece of firewood equipment I have every owned, used or seen used.

:pumpkin2:

even better then that crappy 346 you always talkin about ???? :)
 
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sunfish,
angelo c,

Thanks guys.

Guess they have gone through some serious improvement since early days with them.
My next hydro that departs the earth will get a SS replacement :)

One I tried a few years back was either a tired dog or a model before they got good.
 
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I have a backhoe with fel, .

Ok now i hate you. :hmm3grin2orange:

The best set ive seen (when you have the proper equiptment- hence my hatred and jeolousy)
Is an industrial strength "work table" that you can load with the fel, angled slightly that the rounds can roll "down" to the SS. It takes longer to get the load to the splitter then to split them. I use my equiptment trailer to get the same effect.
FEL, SS ? All you need is one of them "crappy" 346xp's and you'll be a happy burner. Of course with a 461 you'll be a much happier burner but dont tell sunfish :msp_tongue:
 
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harrybeaver

Which one did you order ?

Did you go electric ?

It all good with SS.

Visions of splitting In the garage while a snow storm is outside and not smelling exhaust is quite tempting....( electric has its place) . I guess you don't have to wear ear plugs or can play the stereo while splitting out of the weather....mmmmm and after 4:30pm i. The winter because there is lights .....mmmmm
 
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harrybeaver

Which one did you order ?

Did you go electric ?

It all good with SS.

I went with the model j and production table. Paul told me there would be absolutely no need for a home owner to have the HD model. I went with gas with the intention of adding a electric motor later. The SS is very easy to add a motor to since the gas engine has a clutch that would free wheel if the electric motor was running. I think it would be wonderful with an electric motor just hearing the wood getting blasted and not smelling the exhaust fumes of a small engine.
 
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Ok now i hate you. :hmm3grin2orange:

The best set ive seen (when you have the proper equiptment- hence my hatred and jeolousy)
Is an industrial strength "work table" that you can load with the fel, angled slightly that the rounds can roll "down" to the SS. It takes longer to get the load to the splitter then to split them. I use my equiptment trailer to get the same effect.
FEL, SS ? All you need is one of them "crappy" 346xp's and you'll be a happy burner. Of course with a 461 you'll be a much happier burner but dont tell sunfish :msp_tongue:

Actually I have a 346 xp ne with a muffler mod that I got from the chainsaw forums. It is by far my favorite saw. I have a stock 7900 also and it rips but the 346 is just so smooth and feels so good in my hands.
 
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Actually I have a 346 xp ne with a muffler mod that I got from the chainsaw forums. It is by far my favorite saw. I have a stock 7900 also and it rips but the 346 is just so smooth and feels so good in my hands.

Ha !!!
Thats funny i think the 7900 is smoother. The 346 don't come out too often unless my 12 y/o daughter is bored....hehe.

that should wake the inmates !!!!

:jester:
 
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There are a bunch of hydraulic logsplitters that beat the pants off of a 15-second recycle time. Take a look:


Try finding times below 15 second cycle times on actual hydraulic splitters being offered on the market. Do they exist sure, can you find any with say 25 tons and under 10 second cycle times, that cost less than $2500? I doubt it.
 
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I went with the model j and production table. Paul told me there would be absolutely no need for a home owner to have the HD model. I went with gas with the intention of adding a electric motor later. The SS is very easy to add a motor to since the gas engine has a clutch that would free wheel if the electric motor was running. I think it would be wonderful with an electric motor just hearing the wood getting blasted and not smelling the exhaust fumes of a small engine.

We have a few things in common. I to have the J model and am from CT too. I really like the electric . Sounds like your timing was good with the tax holiday.

All the Best !
MC.
 
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Ok now i hate you. :hmm3grin2orange:

The best set ive seen (when you have the proper equiptment- hence my hatred and jeolousy)
Is an industrial strength "work table" that you can load with the fel, angled slightly that the rounds can roll "down" to the SS. It takes longer to get the load to the splitter then to split them. I use my equiptment trailer to get the same effect.
FEL, SS ? All you need is one of them "crappy" 346xp's and you'll be a happy burner. Of course with a 461 you'll be a much happier burner but dont tell sunfish :msp_tongue:

A big ol heavy saw like that would just slow me down! :msp_smile:
 
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I went with the model j and production table. Paul told me there would be absolutely no need for a home owner to have the HD model. I went with gas with the intention of adding a electric motor later. The SS is very easy to add a motor to since the gas engine has a clutch that would free wheel if the electric motor was running. I think it would be wonderful with an electric motor just hearing the wood getting blasted and not smelling the exhaust fumes of a small engine.

Other than motor size/configuration , what are the differences between the models ?
 
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I have to say you are so much faster than anything I'd ever want to be. When I'm splitting, as for as cycle time, I can't keep up as it is. I guess some people are just in a big rush, but for me too big of a hurry. I was shoveling red Georgia dirt yesterday, no way could I hurry it up. My 70 years old body was sweating like a monsoon. Not to mention my stamina.

Just slow down a tad and get more done. :msp_w00t:
 
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Other than motor size/configuration , what are the differences between the models ?

The flywheels are heavier on the HD model, I think the J has 75# and the HD 90#, the number of bearings on the push plate, and the size of the rack/pinion. If I was selling firewood and splitting 100 plus cord a year I would consider the HD. As is I will be doing about 15 cord this year and 6 then on, I am hoping to have the six cord split stacked and drying in a weekend. I am sure plenty of friends will be asking to barrow it.
 

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