Pioneer chainsaws

[fossil]

• Question for my Pioneer friends. What is this saw worth? Its missing the starter and have no idea if it has spark. I might have a chance to purchase it and want to know what's a fair price for me and the seller? Thanks in advance
  
  
  

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I would be suspicious of the flywheel as it looks like it's pretty chewed up and may have a piece out of it (at about 7:00 o'clock) and looks to be missing a bunch of fins. I would also be looking closely at the end of the crankshaft as the starter pawls are over the end of it. They should butt up against the nut if the nut is even there. It's a bit hard to tell as there's a lot of crud.
You might also check to make sure the fuel cap can be removed. They have a tendency to swell and stick.

A P50 is a peppy saw.

 

[pioneerguy600]

I would be suspicious of the flywheel as it looks like it's pretty chewed up and may have a piece out of it (at about 7:00 o'clock) and looks to be missing a bunch of fins. I would also be looking closely at the end of the crankshaft as the starter pawls are over the end of it. They should butt up against the nut if the nut is even there. It's a bit hard to tell as there's a lot of crud.

A P50 is a peppy saw.

That saw would be a crap shoot for me buying it, wouldn`t go more than $50. CDN for that one unless I had it in my hands for a half hour. I know Pioneer saws are sort of rare, own a couple of them , but one has to think about purchasing a beat to death unit, no telling what works, what`s all missing and where to even find all missing or non working bits, all parts are scarce and expensive for those saws. That one is best considered a spare parts donor saw if buying it on the net. A saw like that can quickly set you back $500. or more just for a few replacement bits, best to wait for a complete saw unless you get into collecting them, then spare parts become a necessity. Ask for a pic of the end of the crank on the flywheel side, under the catch pawls, like Tim mentioned it does not look right.

 

[big10pointer]

Thanks for the thought on the saw I didn't catch the crankshaft not being right. y'all are the best!

 

[xl130]

Hard to say how well they sold.
The fact they shed paint while they sit there doesn't help to make them popular.
Four versions of the saw.. 3200, 3270, 3270S, and 3270SC.
The 3270's have an auto oiler. The 3270S may be called that for the "Low Tone" muffler and 3270SC has a choke rather than a primer.

Also the 2400 and 2460 which look the same and are 77cc but I have never come across them.

Here’s my 3200 getting all angry!

 

[fossil]

Here’s my 3200 getting all angry!

Great, relatively unknown saw.

 

[Lou]

From the Seattle area Craig's list, 2073 $80 is what the posting reads. https://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/tls/d/auburn-pioneer-2073-chainsaw/7468360282.html

 

[camel2019]

I'm looking for P-50 Crank bearings and seals and wrist pin bearing. Part numbers and or where to get them will be really appreciated!

You will have to cross referenced the bearing sizes/types and find some at a bearing supplier seals again finding out what they are and the size is required.

 

[PogoInTheWoods]

I believe the bearings will be 6203s and the seals will be SKF/CR 5606s corresponding to Pioneer numbers 432536 and 428746 for all those saws.

 

[xl130]

I believe the bearings will be 6203s and the seals will be SKF/CR 5606s corresponding to Pioneer numbers 432536 and 428746 for all those saws.

I was given bearing number6202/C3 open once upon a time. Not sure the difference?

 

[PogoInTheWoods]

6203s are larger in all dimensions. Jerry or Tim may want to chime in for clarification / verification of the cross references. My source is a fairly well-recognized compilation they're both probably more familiar with than I am regarding the accuracy of its content. It's been correct for everything I've used it for to date.

 

[xl130]

6203s are larger in all dimensions. Jerry or Tim may want to chime in for clarification / verification of the cross references. My source is a fairly well-recognized compilation they're both probably more familiar with than I am regarding the accuracy of its content. It's been correct for everything I've used it for to date.

My numbers are untested by myself and unverified so I would have to go with your numbers then.

I have a P50 project that I have on the “to do shelf” so the correct numbers are definitely an interest to me!

 

[fossil]

I would pull the saw apart and see what the numbers on the bearings are. I've heard there are some number of different setups. Same with the wrist pin bearing.
The the crankshaft bearings show this one for the clutch side but there is no number for the FW side bearing.
Pioneer PN 431266 on the clutch side.

The CR5606 seals do work but are tight on the shafts.
I believe the best alternative for the seals are Dichtomatic Americas15X25.5X4.5TC

 

[big10pointer]

Thanks for the reply’s.

 

[Beavers]

Here is some info regarding wrist pin bearing update on your P-50 Build that you and others may find useful.
The bearing on left is original 430743 and bearing on right side is 507-433289
l can resend pics if they are not clear enough to see.

 

[pioneerguy600]

I doubt this one will ever need rebuilding,

 

[fossil]

I doubt this one will ever need rebuilding,

That's a beauty Jerry. Was it built in Huron Park?

I have a P52 as well built in Peterborough.

 

[big10pointer]

Those are both very nice Pioneer specimens. Maybe one day I will owone like that.

 

[Beavers]

One of my favorites for sure, their was alot of performance improvements in that Saw or the PP52.
Nice Jerry.

 

[farmguywithasaw]

Hello all I’m working on a 1200 a and it’s missing the plug for the oil pump. Anyone know what thread it is. It doesn’t look like normal pipe thread thanks jp

 

[pioneerguy600]

That's a beauty Jerry. Was it built in Huron Park?

I have a P52 as well built in Peterborough.

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I know it was bought new in Ontario , that is where I bought it from, not certain where it was built.