Most of our Ace Hardware's are Stihl dealers. When the one close to me opened the Southern States 5-6 doors down was already a Stihl dealer so they wouldn't let the Ace have a dealership. So, they went Echo. A month or so back I went in Ace and all the Echo stuff was GONE, and replaced with Stihl. Both stores shelves were loaded, but I didn't pay attention to what they were loaded with. I'm sure it's mostly home owner stuff. I tried to buy a 660 from Southern States 10+ years ago. I asked if he'd give me a deal for cash. he said, NO, he didn't stock them and if he ordered it he would have to charge MSRP. I went to and Ace 15 miles away and he gave me over $300 off. I'll stick my head in the door to my local Ace and see what they have?