I ask about this in a thread elsewhere yesterday. DD for H
Dolmar 6100 vs Echo 620p
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I ask about this in a thread elsewhere yesterday. DD for H
WKEND LUMBERJAK
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The 6100 carb is fully adjustable and it takes a DD. it does not come with the saw. Had proposition one.
At an Oct. GTG I had the pleasure of swapping saws for comparison, my Dolmar 6100 & 620 Echo. We both found them very useful tools, very good A/V, torque curve and peak power. I thought the Dolmar has a bit better top-end, not from prejudice mind you.
I could recommend either without reservation. Sorry, Niko. It's good to have strong competition.
I could recommend either without reservation. Sorry, Niko. It's good to have strong competition.
Four Paws
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I will add some photos to this thread.
Echo CS-620PW
Translucent tank - visible fuel level.
Air box design...forced air induction duct (black oval) on left. Non-strato, conventional piston port with fully adjustable carb for the old-school guys. You can also see (old school) metal kill switch and separate choke lever - no confusion on which function is where. I will be honest, the choke lever is cheesey and no-frills...fuctional, but could have better fit and finish.
Bottom of saw - easy to see oiler adjustment. Large forward AV spring, rubber isolaters in back. Doesn't feel like a limp noodle when outfit with a bar over 20"
Clutch side - the clutch cover is STOUT. The chain tensioner is really nice. Nice fitment to the saw body. Thick chip deflector. Roller chain catcher on the saw chassis.
Your basic top and side views.
Echo CS-620PW
Translucent tank - visible fuel level.
Air box design...forced air induction duct (black oval) on left. Non-strato, conventional piston port with fully adjustable carb for the old-school guys. You can also see (old school) metal kill switch and separate choke lever - no confusion on which function is where. I will be honest, the choke lever is cheesey and no-frills...fuctional, but could have better fit and finish.
Bottom of saw - easy to see oiler adjustment. Large forward AV spring, rubber isolaters in back. Doesn't feel like a limp noodle when outfit with a bar over 20"
Clutch side - the clutch cover is STOUT. The chain tensioner is really nice. Nice fitment to the saw body. Thick chip deflector. Roller chain catcher on the saw chassis.
Your basic top and side views.
cuttinties
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Looks like a well built toolI will add some photos to this thread.
Echo CS-620PW
Translucent tank - visible fuel level.
Air box design...forced air induction duct (black oval) on left. Non-strato, conventional piston port with fully adjustable carb for the old-school guys. You can also see (old school) metal kill switch and separate choke lever - no confusion on which function is where. I will be honest, the choke lever is cheesey and no-frills...fuctional, but could have better fit and finish.
Bottom of saw - easy to see oiler adjustment. Large forward AV spring, rubber isolaters in back. Doesn't feel like a limp noodle when outfit with a bar over 20"
Clutch side - the clutch cover is STOUT. The chain tensioner is really nice. Nice fitment to the saw body. Thick chip deflector. Roller chain catcher on the saw chassis.
Your basic top and side views.
Duke Thieroff
Fill your hands, you SOB!
Looks like Echo has really done it right with this saw....
Isn't it just a Shinny inside anyways?
Isn't it just a Shinny inside anyways?
cuttinties
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Forgot to ask. How does that thing oil longer bars? Will it keep up with a 24 in hardwood?I will add some photos to this thread.
Echo CS-620PW
Translucent tank - visible fuel level.
Air box design...forced air induction duct (black oval) on left. Non-strato, conventional piston port with fully adjustable carb for the old-school guys. You can also see (old school) metal kill switch and separate choke lever - no confusion on which function is where. I will be honest, the choke lever is cheesey and no-frills...fuctional, but could have better fit and finish.
Bottom of saw - easy to see oiler adjustment. Large forward AV spring, rubber isolaters in back. Doesn't feel like a limp noodle when outfit with a bar over 20"
Clutch side - the clutch cover is STOUT. The chain tensioner is really nice. Nice fitment to the saw body. Thick chip deflector. Roller chain catcher on the saw chassis.
Your basic top and side views.
Four Paws
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Yes, it does appear to be. I can say that Japanese products are extremely reliable and functional. You won't find stripped threads in the magnesium, components that don't function properly, etc. I think for a firewood cutter, this would be a one-saw-wonder. Has some very desirable features, and beats Stihl and Husqvarna on price point AND warranty.
I don't know the specifics of the merger between Echo and Shindaiwa to form Yamabiko Corporation. I don't know if, or how, the design teams were merged. Echo and Shindaiwa are now 'brands' of the parent company. Just like Poula-red-max-varna has been, or is, at present. I have heard that Shindaiwa saws may return to the US market in 2015. I do not know if the pre-merger Shindaiwa designed production saws like the 757, 577, 490, etc. will be back, or if they are releasing new models, or just red Echo saws? I do know any Echo dealer can get you Shindaiwa parts.
M&Rtree
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I've never noticed the fuel tank until now. Nice saws. Its seems they both have their advantages. Dolmars filter looks better, has a primer blub, a touch smaller I'm getting. Echo has a metal clutch cover with felling spike,translucent fuel tank and easy to work on.
Four Paws
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No idea. Echo specs it out from 16"-27". All my Shindaiwa saws have Mikuni oil pumps and oil like Exxon Valdez. If this saw follows suit, I would say certainly.
jughead500
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Checked the cs 600 against a cs4400 filter,intake today.the filter will fit underneath the 600 cover but adapting may be a problem.i will still check out the other models like the 400 and 6700 and see if i can adapt the round filter to the 590-620.somthing has to be possible.
M&Rtree
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not sure about the 620, but the 600 will oil a 24" bar and then some! best price i have found on the 620pw is 690.00 around here, dolmar 6100 is 525.00 cash and carry. wish i could find a good deal on a 620, i would love to see how much better it runs than the 600. echo is definately proud $$$$ of the 620pw, it is priced well into 362c territory!
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My take on the 590/600/620 is that that feel very plasticky. I've never run, but I have fondled them many times and I just can't get past that fact. I think Echo has made big strides in the power department, and they may be very durable, but they lack the feel I like.
I've never tried a Dolmar. I have seen one in person and I think they are typically Dolmar. That is to say, well made. It did seem a little heavy but well laid out.
I've never tried a Dolmar. I have seen one in person and I think they are typically Dolmar. That is to say, well made. It did seem a little heavy but well laid out.
SawTroll
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I don't agree - but it isn't a big deal anyway!
SawTroll
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I will add some photos to this thread.
Echo CS-620PW
Bottom of saw - easy to see oiler adjustment. Large forward AV spring, rubber isolaters in back. Doesn't feel like a limp noodle when outfit with a bar over 20"
Breakages in the area where the handlebar attaches to the tank has been reported in the UK, but I don't know if it is a common issue.
Treespotter
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Wahahahaha, what a wonderful remark. Sawtroll.
Do you really think someone here cares that the 560 is a couple of grams lighter?
The only thing I care about is that my 6100 is in my hands and not as most of my mates 560's in the shop for repairs.
I really love reading your remarks. It's like 'hearing' a broken record coming out of a cocoon instead of the real world.
Just tell us one thing. When was the last time your Husky was broken. And don't tell us that never happened because you know that absolutely no one will believe that.
Wolter
SawTroll
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Didn't happen, except a warranty issue with the 339xp - but Im sure one of them will some time.....
7sleeper
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The same idiotic argumentation as usual! A fellow comes to ask about two specific models and some fellow from norway is trying
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Nothing to worry about. Same design as has been used on generations of Husqvarna and other manufacturers saws.
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jughead500
Sasquatch
Brush Ape?
