i might be doing a bone head move here so flame me

[gregn]

I've been using Lucas for awhile at 32:1. No smell or carbon build up. Cheap price to.

 

[computeruser]

With OE oils.......40:1 is ok.

When using Belray, Maxima, etc......32:1.

What's the logic of heavier doses of oil with the *better* oil? Figured I'd ask, since my stash of MX2T will run out eventually (run at 43:1), and I do like that Klotz smell...

 

[o8f150]

i had always run the echo power blend at 45:1 and never had a failure,,,, i am going to run this at 40:1 by using 3 ounces per gallon,,, figure i cant go wrong with that and even with that i will still be ahead cost wise,,, glad to see a lot of people using it with no issues

 

[o8f150]

What's the logic of heavier doses of oil with the *better* oil? Figured I'd ask, since my stash of MX2T will run out eventually (run at 43:1), and I do like that Klotz smell...

its just extra insurance thats why the extra oil

 

[Mastermind]

What's the logic of heavier doses of oil with the *better* oil? Figured I'd ask, since my stash of MX2T will run out eventually (run at 43:1), and I do like that Klotz smell...

Belray and Maxima are designed to be used at 32:1 in engines under 125cc.

Klotz STP is the nastiest oil I've ever used. No way I'll ever put that stuff in my saws again.

 

[cory@owen]

from the maxima website: http://www.maximausa.com/product/formula-k2/
50-80cc (24-32:1) | 125cc (24-40:1) | 250cc (24-40:1) | 500cc and up (32-60:1)

 

[ColdStihl]

so you now have more money left over for snackies for BBW bait

 

[CTYank]

The only time I almost scored a piston was a rare time I was using 50:1. Never again. Add to that, that it's a known fact that the 372, 385, 390 need more oil for the crank bearings.

Any conjecture as to why that's so? Given that those bearings are anti-friction (ball) bearings and the only rubbing in the area is spacers on balls. What is the typical failure mode with those bearings?

 

[blsnelling]

I think the bigger problem is rod bearings. I only know what I've seen reported by the likes of Jacob J.

 

[o8f150]

the only rubbing is in the area on the balls

yep,,, do it every day

 

[Coldfront]

i had always run the echo power blend at 45:1 and never had a failure,,,, i am going to run this at 40:1 by using 3 ounces per gallon,,, figure i cant go wrong with that and even with that i will still be ahead cost wise,,, glad to see a lot of people using it with no issues

3.2 oz to one gallon of gas would be 40:1
I have gone to 3.5 oz per gallon puts me at 36:1

 

[Mastermind]

I think the bigger problem is rod bearings. I only know what I've seen reported by the likes of Jacob J.

Not just JJ.......I've seen lots of killed 372, 385, and 390 cranks. Spot on though......it's the rod bearing that dies first.

I've even seen a 088 crank that had the rod bearing melted, and oozing out of the rod.

That saw was running on 80:1 though.

 

[CTYank]

yep,,, do it every day

Didn't think to phrase it to be perv-proof.

 

[Mastermind]

Yo Brad......gonna make it to KY????

 

[o8f150]

3.2 oz to one gallon of gas would be 40:1
I have gone to 3.5 oz per gallon puts me at 36:1

nope,,, not according to the bottle and heres the label

 

[BBP]

I don't understand what bore size has to due with anything. Oil ratio should be based on quality of oil, piston speed, compression, load, temps etc. Isn't Stihl synth oil rated JASO FD? That's a pretty high rating. People have been running 50:1 in saws for years with no problems. If you want a little more insurance or increase the performance of a saw, I agree you should increase the oil to compensate. I don't understand why anyone would run an expensive oil if you have to use 50% more oil. Klotz, Belray & Maxima are not cheap oils. Or am I wrong in thinking that running Stihl oil in a stock Stihl saw at 50:1 like Stihl recommends will provide years of trouble free use.

 

[old-cat]

Good oil has to pass a taste test, No????

 

[Chris-PA]

Isn't Stihl synth oil rated JASO FD?

Nope. You need to buy good oil to get that rating.

 

[blsnelling]

Yo Brad......gonna make it to KY????

Unfortunately, no. It's not in the cards this year. Hope you guys have a great time. I know that I always do at Wiggs.

 

[KenJax Tree]

nope,,, not according to the bottle and heres the label
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It also says 2.75oz for 50:1 instead of 2.6oz