2000ssm6
Stihl User
Sorry! I cant help myself sometimes! To you and 2000ssm!!
We could drink beer and talk saws if we were closer!
Same here, I'd love to run some of your Dolmars. That 5100 is a screamer.
Sorry! I cant help myself sometimes! To you and 2000ssm!!
We could drink beer and talk saws if we were closer!
Shindaiwas (small and large) put out a lot less power than advertised, according to KWF dyno tests......:jawdrop:
The Shinnys also lost a lot of points in all other accounts, like handling, AV, air filtration, quality feel etc - they just are very inferior saws, when compared to the better pro saws.
BLAH BLAH BLAH....come up with something new. Thanks for your constructive criticism Niko.
there in lies the difference, i buck them as they fall most of the time.. even on skidded logs, a good semi chisel helps a bunch.. I would also run skip before the little bars, I hate to have to bend over that much..Hi
try cutting logs that have been dragged through grit filled dirt or covered on the side of the track in the same stuff by a friendly person widening a track with a grader. You'll be sharpening at least once a log minimum. If you're cutting real dirty wood or just wood that had to be dragged about before it could be cut then you learn to appreciate the shorter bars when you reach for the file for the umpteenth time...
If I'm cutting clean wood then I can often get by all day without having to reach for a file at all with the stihl chains, oregon and Co. need maybe a light filing in the same conditions.
I just always go for the shortest bar that will get the job done.
Bye
Ha Keith,
If you wont to cut 30'' stuff your going to need a saw to pull a 25'' bar so that means something like a MS441 or bigger,you are on the right track with the RSC chain and go 3/8 .063.Keep the 250 for smaller stuff and limming.
''Their name products aren't in the mix with the big boys,'' tell that to the landscapers around here. I don't see many of them pulling around Husky trimmers on there trailors. You'll see the new guys with there shining orange and white trimmers but the guys with 20 or so years of weed beating in mostly have very old looking Shindiawas.
If I was a logger I would definately buy Stihl. I Rode Rt 220 from Pa. down to N. Carolina and the only other OPE I saw the whole way down was an old Homelite dealer. But for cutting fire wood save your money on the saw and buy a nicer wood burner with the savings.
I have a small firewood business that I set up when I retired. I think I average about 440 cords per year. I run my 372 probably 90% of the time and I absolutely love it. It's the best all around saw I have ever had. May not be the lightest, most powerful or whatever, but it is the best saw I have run, period. Make your next saw at least 75cc and what ever brand you choose you won't be sorry.I am not a professional. I own 8 acres of hardwoods and own a Stihl MS250. The saw runs well and seems pretty light but it cuts SLLLOOOWWW. I have been using green chains from Stihl(for 2 years) and just bought 2 yellow RSC chains. I am hoping that will speed things up considerably, but I have alot of cutting to do. I have perhaps a dozen 30+ inch logs to cut into firewood. My guess is they will produce a dozen cords and I have more down throughout my lot. I am thinking I need a larger saw. Cutting through each of these logs 1 time can take 10 minutes. They are maple, hickory and oak. The hickory is really slow. I have my eye on a very clean Shindaiwa 757 on ebay. It is alot of saw. I really am having difficulty justifying a MS361 at 675 bucks after tax. SO here is my question? Should I buy another saw and if so which one? Should I just sell the 250 and get a 260? Will the 250 with a non safety chain be all I need to save my back? I sawed several hours nonstop last weekend bent over and have been in serious pain all week, that is what has drawn me to a bigger faster cutting saw. I will probably live on this 8 acres the rest of my life, although after 3 or 4 more years I may have it relatively clean. I love the site and look forward to hearing the answer.
Almost forgot, the dealer I use does Toro mowers(I have a ZTR), Stihl, and Shindaiwa. That is why the Shinny caught my eye. I know this is blasphemy but my dealer actually told me he preferred the Shindaiwa saws to the Stihls, but he said he rarely sells a Shinny saw. He said he has to SELL Shindaiwa saws and Stihl trimmers, while people BUY Shindaiwa trimmers and Stihl saws.
Keith
Mahindra 2516
Toro Z500
Stihl MS250
Stihl BR320
A second saw?
Only one more, c'mon surely you need more that that .
60 cc saw with a 20" bar will do fine with a 30" tree. My 036 has done it tons of times. Yep, gotta cut from both sides of the trunk, no big deal [I'm not talking about production cutting, just serious firewood]. I have added a 441 to the family and use it for those trees as of a few months ago, but I just got it for fun and for an additional saw in case the other one is down.
Nothing wrong with getting a 70 cc 'cuz you want to. Don't need it for only a few trees like that. [Didn't stop me from gettin' the 441....]
I've batted that one around my head many times and still have no conclusion:
All things being equal: Longer bar should have each cutter doing less work for each log, and last longer between filings, but take longer to file. Figuring out time for grabbing the files and doing it, the longer bar should be a slight time savings.
But are all things equal? Does dirty wood tend to dull cutters at some rate porportional to total cutting time rather than cutter engagement time?
I am not a professional. I own 8 acres of hardwoods and own a Stihl MS250. The saw runs well and seems pretty light but it cuts SLLLOOOWWW. I have been using green chains from Stihl(for 2 years) and just bought 2 yellow RSC chains. I am hoping that will speed things up considerably, but I have alot of cutting to do. I have perhaps a dozen 30+ inch logs to cut into firewood. My guess is they will produce a dozen cords and I have more down throughout my lot. I am thinking I need a larger saw. Cutting through each of these logs 1 time can take 10 minutes. They are maple, hickory and oak. The hickory is really slow. I have my eye on a very clean Shindaiwa 757 on ebay. It is alot of saw. I really am having difficulty justifying a MS361 at 675 bucks after tax. SO here is my question? Should I buy another saw and if so which one? Should I just sell the 250 and get a 260? Will the 250 with a non safety chain be all I need to save my back? I sawed several hours nonstop last weekend bent over and have been in serious pain all week, that is what has drawn me to a bigger faster cutting saw. I will probably live on this 8 acres the rest of my life, although after 3 or 4 more years I may have it relatively clean. I love the site and look forward to hearing the answer.
Almost forgot, the dealer I use does Toro mowers(I have a ZTR), Stihl, and Shindaiwa. That is why the Shinny caught my eye. I know this is blasphemy but my dealer actually told me he preferred the Shindaiwa saws to the Stihls, but he said he rarely sells a Shinny saw. He said he has to SELL Shindaiwa saws and Stihl trimmers, while people BUY Shindaiwa trimmers and Stihl saws.
Keith
Mahindra 2516
Toro Z500
Stihl MS250
Stihl BR320
I know this is blasphemy but my dealer actually told me he preferred the Shindaiwa saws to the Stihls, but he said he rarely sells a Shinny saw.
That's funny! I thought I needed a second saw back in March (2 1/2 months ago), which is what brought me here. Last week saw number 4 arrived via UPS. It's not a slippery slope, it's a cliff! And there are plenty around here willing to "help" you over the edge.
No Regrets!!!!
So, when is the 441 arriving?!?
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