Best quality oil for fuel mix?

[Adirondackstihl]

I've seen too many problems with premature wear when not using the manufactures oil.

Horsesh!t

Whats funny about that is, your manufacturers oil is manufactured by someone else. Please don't tell me you think STIHL or anyone else manufactures their own oil?

 

[mdavlee]

Why not go buy castrol instead of paying for stihl on the bottle? I can't use the HP as it gives me a head ache.

 

[sachsmo]

Klotz does (of course they don't make saws)

I had the pleasure to tour their facliity and talk to one of their engineers.

Think I learned more 'bout 2 stroke oil in that half hour than I have reading all these bogus threads?

 

[LarryRFL]

For what it's worth, Spectrum manufactures mixing oil and bottles it for a lot of oem's. There are some differences because of specs issued by the oem, but a lot of it is the same whether it is a oem branded or an aftermarket. That's why the bottles of a lot of brands look identical. If it is a Husqvarna Outdoor Power brand (Husky, Poulan, Jonsered, RedMax) it is likely to be the same stuff in all the bottles of like product (i.e. synthetic).

 

[Adirondackstihl]

Klotz does (of course they don't make saws)

I had the pleasure to tour their facliity and talk to one of their engineers.

Think I learned more 'bout 2 stroke oil in that half hour than I have reading all these bogus threads?

I should have clarified that any "saw manufacturer" does not bottle their own oils.

 

[stihl sawing]

Subscribed.

 

[sachsmo]

I should have clarified that any "saw manufacturer" does not bottle their own oils.

I got your drift.

What qwacks me up is all the mis-conceptions 'bout Klotz,. Seems folks confuse a staunch old German name for sumthin' else, ha ha ha!

Ain't ya never heard "with a name like Smuckers it's gotta be good"

 

[mdavlee]

For what it's worth, Spectrum manufactures mixing oil and bottles it for a lot of oem's. There are some differences because of specs issued by the oem, but a lot of it is the same whether it is a oem branded or an aftermarket. That's why the bottles of a lot of brands look identical. If it is a Husqvarna Outdoor Power brand (Husky, Poulan, Jonsered, RedMax) it is likely to be the same stuff in all the bottles of like product (i.e. synthetic).

Add poulan synthetic to that also.

 

[KG441c]

Amsoil is top notch if used properly. Never seen a failure in my Mercury race division motor!!

 

[Twisted Priorities]

Horsesh!t

Whats funny about that is, your manufacturers oil is manufactured by someone else. Please don't tell me you think STIHL or anyone else manufactures their own oil?

All OEM's have their oil manufactured to their specifications for their product. There maybe only 6 oil manufactures in North America to produce many dozens of brands of oils for the market. But there are tracer markers in each brand of oil to distinguish them from each other.
My company in collaboration with two other performance diesel manufactures conducted testing on diesel oil and filters. You would be surprised on who makes what and for who. But it comes down to warranty and personal preference on what you use.

 

[memory]

Not to hijack this thread but I have a question about the mix ratio. For years, I have been running our saws at a 50:1 ratio and never had any major problems. I am thinking about starting to use a 40:1 ratio. First thing, the oil I buy comes in 5.2 ounce bottles which is for 2 gallons of gas at 50:1. I have never seen bottles made for a different ratio. According to a calculator I found online, it says I would need 6.4 ounces for 40:1. When using 5.2 ounce bottles, how do you get exactly 6.4 ounces? Do you use a measuring cup, do you weight it?

Another thing is on my JD CS56, will I notice a difference when going from 50:1 to 40:1? Will the saw have to be retuned? Are there any disadvantages in running 40:1.

 

[Adirondackstihl]

Get yourself a RatioRite cup

 

[mdavlee]

Not to hijack this thread but I have a question about the mix ratio. For years, I have been running our saws at a 50:1 ratio and never had any major problems. I am thinking about starting to use a 40:1 ratio. First thing, the oil I buy comes in 5.2 ounce bottles which is for 2 gallons of gas at 50:1. I have never seen bottles made for a different ratio. According to a calculator I found online, it says I would need 6.4 ounces for 40:1. When using 5.2 ounce bottles, how do you get exactly 6.4 ounces? Do you use a measuring cup, do you weight it?

Another thing is on my JD CS56, will I notice a difference when going from 50:1 to 40:1? Will the saw have to be retuned? Are there any disadvantages in running 40:1.

You can cut back the gas you mix those bottles with to get the ratio you want also.

 

[KG441c]

Horsesh!t

Whats funny about that is, your manufacturers oil is manufactured by someone else. Please don't tell me you think STIHL or anyone else manufactures their own oil?

Stihl ultra is Castrol formulated and blended , packaged, and distributed close to my home town in Shreveport , La. by Omni Specialty Packaging on Wilburn Dr.

 

[Ron660]

To answer the question concerning "how do I get a 40:1 ratio"? The easiest way is not to measure the oil but to determine the amount of gas per bottle of oil. Let's say you have a 2.6oz bottle of oil that will give you a 50:1 mix with one gallon of gas. Divide 40/50 and you get 0.8. 40 is 80% of 50. So that means for every 2.6oz bottle you add 0.80 gallons of fuel. If you had a 5.2oz bottle it would be 1.60 gallons to achieve a 40:1 fuel to oil ratio. Still confused? Let's try a 32:1 ratio. 32/50 = 0.64. So you need 0.64 gallons of fuel to a 2.6oz bottle to achieve a 32:1 ratio. This way you never need to measure oil....just add fuel. I knew that "A" in math would pay off one day.

 

[Homelite410]

To answer the question concerning "how do I get a 40:1 ratio"? The easiest way is not to measure the oil but to determine the amount of gas per bottle of oil. Let's say you have a 2.6oz bottle of oil that will give you a 50:1 mix with one gallon of gas. Divide 40/50 and you get 0.8. 40 is 80% of 50. So that means for every 2.6oz bottle you add 0.80 gallons of fuel. If you had a 5.2oz bottle it would be 1.60 gallons to achieve a 40:1 fuel to oil ratio. Still confused? Let's try a 32:1 ratio. 32/50 = 0.64. So you need 0.64 gallons of fuel to a 2.6oz bottle to achieve a 32:1 ratio. This way you never need to measure oil....just add fuel. I knew that "A" in math would pay off one day.

I like it!

 

[Speed]

I don't know why you guys buy that high dollar synthetic stuff. I just pour straight gas in and top it off with a few drops of bar oil since its already in my hand.

 

[zogger]

All OEM's have their oil manufactured to their specifications for their product. There maybe only 6 oil manufactures in North America to produce many dozens of brands of oils for the market. But there are tracer markers in each brand of oil to distinguish them from each other.
My company in collaboration with two other performance diesel manufactures conducted testing on diesel oil and filters. You would be surprised on who makes what and for who. But it comes down to warranty and personal preference on what you use.

Do you have anything you can tell us about the diesel oil study, any authorized stuff? Or point to somewhere else online with the study results? If it is all secret in house, that's fine.

 

[Ironworker]

All an engine knows is that it needs an ample amount of oil and it doesn't care what name is on the jug, plain and simple, lubrication is lubrication.

 

[KG441c]

Oh heck!!! Lets just use 1/3 bacon grease and 2/3 suntanning oil!!! All this is just opinions. My buddy that started this post is an educated scienctist who is looking for scientific backed data on 2 stroke oil in aircooled chainsaw motors! He simply is looking for the best protection available for that high$$$$$ 660 he just purchased. Does anyone know of a lab backed test of all these oils?