Sharpening hard wood profile

[Bob Hedgecutter]

Cheapest available at the time, better than the chaps ending up half way down me bum like an american hood rat.

Yeah, they are good tho. Also have a husky helmet, but didnt take it out with me that day, dont tell Bob Hedgecutter.

I will swap you the Husqvarna braces for a Jonsered set- you might as well cover all the bases as just two.
Personally, I don't care if you have a Husqvarna helmet hidden somewhere- I ain't no brand snob!
I wear Jonsered braces on my Stihl winter weight trousers......

 

[trains]

I've got a set just like them, husky winter cutting pants and summer, a pair of husky looking boots, and one or two husky saws .

Yeah, ive got some husky pants I wear in winter, great kit, but they are too hot in summer, use either the chaps, or some clogger pants in summer.
All good gear.

 

[trains]

I will swap you the Husqvarna braces for a Jonsered set- you might as well cover all the bases as just two.
Personally, I don't care if you have a Husqvarna helmet hidden somewhere- I ain't no brand snob!
I wear Jonsered braces on my Stihl winter weight trousers......

Yeah, out in the country, you dont have the choice, or availability like in the city, so you make do with what you can get at the time.
Stihl helmet gets more use as it has brackets for a chin strap, so got one and use it, husky one doesent have them.

 

[chipper1]

Yeah, ive got some husky pants I wear in winter, great kit, but they are too hot in summer, use either the chaps, or some clogger pants in summer.
All good gear.

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Yep, even the summer cutting pants get hot and it doesn't get very hot here in comparison to many places. I have a set of shorter chaps I'll wear when it's real hot. I need a nice set of cloggers.
We don't have eucs like that here lol, but sycamore looks a bit like it.
Nice, I have the same set of spurs, pretty sure I got one of those saws that's ported, and a couple of those helmets, one with a shield and one without.
I don't have that camera though, let's see the videos.

Where did you go Tom.
Here's a chain video for you Tom, you mates from down under will get a kick outta this one.

 

[pioneerguy600]

Yep, even the summer cutting pants get hot and it doesn't get very hot here in comparison to many places. I have a set of shorter chaps I'll wear when it's real hot. I need a nice set of cloggers.
We don't have eucs like that here lol, but sycamore looks a bit like it.
Nice, I have the same set of spurs, pretty sure I got one of those saws that's ported, and a couple of those helmets, one with a shield and one without.
I don't have that camera though, let's see the videos.

Where did you go Tom.
Here's a chain video for you Tom, you mates from down under will get a kick outta this one.

What was that??

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

Yeah, out in the country, you dont have the choice, or availability like in the city, so you make do with what you can get at the time.
Stihl helmet gets more use as it has brackets for a chin strap, so got one and use it, husky one doesent have them.

Thats because Husqvarna headgear wearers are clever enough to adjust the harness so it stays on your head!

 

[trains]

Thats because Husqvarna headgear wearers are clever enough to adjust the harness so it stays on your head!

Ah, thats what I was doing wrong.

 

[trains]

Yep, even the summer cutting pants get hot and it doesn't get very hot here in comparison to many places. I have a set of shorter chaps I'll wear when it's real hot. I need a nice set of cloggers.
We don't have eucs like that here lol, but sycamore looks a bit like it.
Nice, I have the same set of spurs, pretty sure I got one of those saws that's ported, and a couple of those helmets, one with a shield and one without.
I don't have that camera though, let's see the videos.

Where did you go Tom.
Here's a chain video for you Tom, you mates from down under will get a kick outta this one.

Camera was a cheapie wife got from the post office, video was no good sadly, it would turn itself off for no apparent reason as well just to add insult to injury.

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

Ah, thats what I was doing wrong.

That and the earmuffs clicked in position keep the hat on your head generally.
If you swing the muffs out the back of the helmet to do something other than saw- it can become unbalanced and a chinstrap might keep it in place better- but me, the saw stops, the hat comes off.

 

[Vintage Engine Repairs]

Where did you go Tom.
Here's a chain video for you Tom, you mates from down under will get a kick outta this one.

Still here and reading the comments, but I’m not being alerted when they come through, very frustrating.

We just came out of a 5 day lock down and then went straight into a total fireban. Hoping to get out to test the saw Monday or Tuesday if they lift the ban!
P.s good use of chain life

 

[holeycow]

That and the earmuffs clicked in position keep the hat on your head generally.
If you swing the muffs out the back of the helmet to do something other than saw- it can become unbalanced and a chinstrap might keep it in place better- but me, the saw stops, the hat comes off.

I swing one muff to the front and one to the back for balance. I'm not sure ifthat works when you're upside down...

 

[rogue60]

Yep, even the summer cutting pants get hot and it doesn't get very hot here in comparison to many places. I have a set of shorter chaps I'll wear when it's real hot. I need a nice set of cloggers.
We don't have eucs like that here lol, but sycamore looks a bit like it.
Nice, I have the same set of spurs, pretty sure I got one of those saws that's ported, and a couple of those helmets, one with a shield and one without.
I don't have that camera though, let's see the videos.

Where did you go Tom.
Here's a chain video for you Tom, you mates from down under will get a kick outta this one.

All of them cutters would snap off soon as the chain touched wood here lol

 

[Ted Jenkins]

Hey Ted,
Yeah, it needs the gullet re done, even in hard wood, a bigger gullet on long bars helps, had been lazy with the chain of late, and next time on the depth gauges, I would round the nose a bit more after setting, last time I did them I was tired and lazy after a day on the saw, and the hands were not good for fine filing.
If I was going to cut some recent fallen green gum, I would go over the file with the stihl guide and 5.2 file, and give it a bit more hook and take away the 10 deg down angle the husky roller guide gives, and set the rakers on soft wood, not hard as they are now.

Rule of thumb for hardwood would be cutters angle towards 90 a little, less gullet. and edge of cutter slightly more blunt as opposed to razor sharp. Small adjustments will pin point exactly what works for OP. Thanks

 

[rogue60]

When cutting soft or mildly hard wood you can get away with so much more than the woods you are cutting, remember most those over here don't get the experience you get. I've always listened closely to you guys from down under and have learned much. When cutting softer woods(many of our "hardwoods" included) much of what is necessary there is wasted energy/time on the part of the operator here and some of the chain too in many instances.
When you were talking about feeling the imperfection in a chain when cutting, I think some may have gotten it while many others didn't, but I get how inefficient it is when you can feel something so far off from the rest of the chain.
Maybe you should be stoning your chains, that will "set" your set lol. It certainly give a much smoother finish on the wood you're cutting, and it makes the cutters more efficient as the set will be much more consistent.
Any pics of one of your chains mate.

Yeah nah I'll leave the stoning to the race chain guys. I'm sure it makes a big difference in race chain and truing up set.
For my cutting in hardwoods I like endurance that's why I run .404 stoning would thin/take the chrome off only good for a few cut's.
Besides my work chains and how I freehand file work fine for me and what I cut if I was overseas I'd sharpen exactly the same as you guys for the timber there.
One thing I don't do for hardwood is clean the gullet out (shock horror lol) is a waste of time in the harder hardwoods and just work chain.

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

I swing one muff to the front and one to the back for balance. I'm not sure ifthat works when you're upside down...

That is probably the thing! Both Stihl & Husqvarna hard hats are designed in the Northern Hemisphere and gravity will cause them to fall off in the Southern Hemisphere!
Never thought of that! But then I have never felt the need to pay double or more for a chainsaw hard hat because of the label either.

 

[trains]

Rule of thumb for hardwood would be cutters angle towards 90 a little, less gullet. and edge of cutter slightly more blunt as opposed to razor sharp. Small adjustments will pin point exactly what works for OP. Thanks

Hmm, will try again, I felt it was better with the gullet cleaned out earlier in the chains life.
Mainly cut sugar gum, it dosent dust as much as redgum, maybe thats why.
I like that level of hook the husky guide gives, found it works well for cutting and time between sharpenings.
Have raised the file and gone with lesser hook, but went back to that.

 

[trains]

Yeah nah I'll leave the stoning to the race chain guys. I'm sure it makes a big difference in race chain and truing up set.
For my cutting in hardwoods I like endurance that's why I run .404 stoning would thin/take the chrome off only good for a few cut's.
Besides my work chains and how I freehand file work fine for me and what I cut if I was overseas I'd sharpen exactly the same as you guys for the timber there.
One thing I don't do for hardwood is clean the gullet out (shock horror lol) is a waste of time in the harder hardwoods and just work chain.

Good vids, tried to send you a pm, but it didnt show up as an option.

 

[chipper1]

What was that??

Screwing around, someone was talking about them not cutting when they get back past 3/4.

All of them cutters would snap off soon as the chain touched wood here lol

Yep, that's what happened to the missing one, I put it into some hard and frozen wood, had to go to a softer piece so I didn't loose more.

 

[rogue60]

Heres a couple vids I did awhile ago just to show the difference in chain self feeding in softwood and hardwood here.
1st is soft Radiata could probably put the chain on backwards and it would still self feed lol 2nd vid is very hard dry Box.
The cutters skip over and don't bite into the Box very well at all its that hard but with a little persuasion (pressure) to make it cut it cut's fine yes goes totally against overseas advice for cutting softwoods. lol

Same saw/chain and cuts are minutes apart.

 

[chipper1]

Heres a couple vids I did awhile ago just to show the difference in chain self feeding in softwood and hardwood here.
1st is soft Radiata could probably put the chain on backwards and it would still self feed lol 2nd vid is very hard dry Box.
The cutters skip over and don't bite into the Box very well at all its that hard but with a little persuasion (pressure) to make it cut it cut's fine yes goes totally against overseas advice for cutting softwoods. lol

Same saw/chain and cuts are minutes apart.

What goes against our advice, that you have to dog in, instead of stand up and buck lol.
Here's a piece of green elm that isn't frozen.

Here is a frozen one.