Less than 1/3..dealers are selling it at 540 shipped so we should be able to get it direct for around 450.I have a question your signature has a lot of Husqvarna and Homelite in it, how can you talk up a company that has blantanty stolen a companies design, built it so cheap the cost is 1/3 of the OEM?
When are you going to purchase the holtzfforma knock-off husky, when can we expect your review for that?
Here ya goI have a question your signature has a lot of Husqvarna and Homelite in it, how can you talk up a company that has blantanty stolen a companies design, built it so cheap the cost is 1/3 of the OEM, and using dozens of knock off companies in china to build separate components to form that blue abomination you are so happy to have?
When are you going to purchase the holtzfforma knock-off husky, when can we expect your review for that?
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Thank you sir for the the price correction, however it is the principles and morals of it.Less than 1/3..dealers are selling it at 540 shipped so we should be able to get it direct for around 450.
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They are all out of production models, no longer manufactured although old 880 stock will be around a while. Stihl has gone to a number of saws that are price inflated and quality deflated, that when they fail are often not worth fixing. These clones keep the reliable old designs relevant. Ms200t, ms360, 038, ms260, ms440, ms460, 365, 372, 272...the list goes on. There is obviously a vacuum in the market segment, saws in the Poulan Pro price range, of decent quality, that have more capabilities...Thank you sir for the the price correction, however it is the principles and morals of it.
How can you folks support and send your money straight to china for something you know the engineering and R&D is stolen?
Stihl employees 10's of thousands of people here in the USA with their factory in VA, support and distribution with Bryan Equip., and dealerships across this country "yes I know some dealerships are just there and only sale without servicing, warranty, or repairs"
Husqvarna did have factories in Georgia and Arkansas and I am sure they employ thousands of folks here to, but I am sorry to say I do not know enough about their company to know better stats.
Czed thanks I have seen a several of those videos and I am so happy when the buyers go through their little kits, next they are off to the husky and stihl dealer to purchase missing parts, parts that broke on the first use, etc.
I truly don't care what anyone runsThank you sir for the the price correction, however it is the principles and morals of it.
How can you folks support and send your money straight to china for something you know the engineering and R&D is stolen?
Stihl employees 10's of thousands of people here in the USA with their factory in VA, support and distribution with Bryan Equip., and dealerships across this country "yes I know some dealerships are just there and only sale without servicing, warranty, or repairs"
Husqvarna did have factories in Georgia and Arkansas and I am sure they employ thousands of folks here to, but I am sorry to say I do not know enough about their company to know better stats.
Czed thanks I have seen a several of those videos and I am so happy when the buyers go through their little kits, next they are off to the husky and stihl dealer to purchase missing parts, parts that broke on the first use, etc.
And these will generate sales for Stihl Bar & chains to as I recommended in the video. I guess I don't get into the politics of it. Don't really care at this point. Sorry. If something is for sale and I can buy it, and its interesting, I'll put out the dollars. My channel is about saws. All of them. The difference is some groups are more engaging than others. The Husqvarna community and the kit saw community about the most engaging set of folks I've dealt with over the years, so I gravitate there. So my advise to you? Same as any one else. Vote with your dollars. Please. And actually I knew little to nothing about Stihls, until I did the 660's I didn't have a clue. It was THROUGH those experiences I actually got interested in the brand. I wasn't going there partly because of the attitude projected so full of pride and animus for anything different that isn't between the Stihl defined lines, partly price.. it took the clones to open my eyes to how cool some of the Stihl models are. 660's are a favorite. 461's now as well. So instead up getting your back up as these folks build obsolete models, move on and buy 500i's, 462's and 661's, see it this phenom for something that draws folks into the Stihl orbit as it did me. AND if you try and get on your high horse about who designs and who copies, remind me again how Stihl moved to three point spring antivib? And Autotune? How about the RS chain design? The heart of the true Stihl community are going for 500i's and 400i's with a glance in the rear view mirror at 462's. The folks that buy clones would never purchase a new Stihl anyway. And as I mentioned they will get folks to look at Stihl, like me, folks who NEVER would have other wise. So chill. Enjoy the latest and greatest stuff Stihl is marketing now , enjoy your peers doing the same and forget the past along with the obsolete clones that are actually one of the best marketing tools for the brand ever.Thank you sir for the the price correction, however it is the principles and morals of it.
How can you folks support and send your money straight to china for something you know the engineering and R&D is stolen?
Stihl employees 10's of thousands of people here in the USA with their factory in VA, support and distribution with Bryan Equip., and dealerships across this country "yes I know some dealerships are just there and only sale without servicing, warranty, or repairs"
Husqvarna did have factories in Georgia and Arkansas and I am sure they employ thousands of folks here to, but I am sorry to say I do not know enough about their company to know better stats.
Czed thanks I have seen a several of those videos and I am so happy when the buyers go through their little kits, next they are off to the husky and stihl dealer to purchase missing parts, parts that broke on the first use, etc.
Have you tried that 61/272 they offer now?And these will generate sales for Stihl Bar & chains to as I recommended in the video. I guess I don't get into the politics of it. Don't really care at this point. Sorry. If something is for sale and I can buy it, and its interesting, I'll put out the dollars. My channel is about saws. All of them. The difference is some groups are more engaging than others. The Husqvarna community and the kit saw community about the most engaging set of folks I've dealt with over the years, so I gravitate there. So my advise to you? Same as any one else. Vote with your dollars. Please. And actually I knew little to nothing about Stihls, until I did the 660's I didn't have a clue. It was THROUGH those experiences I actually got interested in the brand. I wasn't going there partly because of the attitude projected so full of pride and animus for anything different that isn't between the Stihl defined lines, partly price.. it took the clones to open my eyes to how cool some of the Stihl models are. 660's are a favorite. 461's now as well. So instead up getting your back up as these folks build obsolete models, move to 462's and 661's, see it for something that draws folks into the Stihl orbit as it did me. AND if you try and get on your high horse about who designs and who copies, remind me again how Stihl moved to three point spring antivib? And Autotune? The heart of the true Stihl community are going for 500i's and 400i's with a glance in the rear view mirror at 462's. The folks that buy clones would never purchase a new Stihl anyway. And as I mentioned they will get folks to look at Stihl, like me, who NEVER would have other wise. So chill. Enjoy the latest and greatest stuff Stihl is marketing now , enjoy your peers doing the same and forget the past along with the obsolete clones that are actually one of the best marketing tools for the brand ever.
288, 394/5, 3120 all in the pipesHave you tried that 61/272 they offer now?
Manny what'shisface fatmertec guy said on Facebook the 288 was in the works
Hopefully it's a lowtop.
What are you talking about Stihl has had anti-vibration system for what 5 or 6 decades?And these will generate sales for Stihl Bar & chains to as I recommended in the video. I guess I don't get into the politics of it. Don't really care at this point. Sorry. If something is for sale and I can buy it, and its interesting, I'll put out the dollars. My channel is about saws. All of them. The difference is some groups are more engaging than others. The Husqvarna community and the kit saw community about the most engaging set of folks I've dealt with over the years, so I gravitate there. So my advise to you? Same as any one else. Vote with your dollars. Please. And actually I knew little to nothing about Stihls, until I did the 660's I didn't have a clue. It was THROUGH those experiences I actually got interested in the brand. I wasn't going there partly because of the attitude projected so full of pride and animus for anything different that isn't between the Stihl defined lines, partly price.. it took the clones to open my eyes to how cool some of the Stihl models are. 660's are a favorite. 461's now as well. So instead up getting your back up as these folks build obsolete models, move to 462's and 661's, see it for something that draws folks into the Stihl orbit as it did me. AND if you try and get on your high horse about who designs and who copies, remind me again how Stihl moved to three point spring antivib? And Autotune? The heart of the true Stihl community are going for 500i's and 400i's with a glance in the rear view mirror at 462's. The folks that buy clones would never purchase a new Stihl anyway. And as I mentioned they will get folks to look at Stihl, like me, who NEVER would have other wise. So chill. Enjoy the latest and greatest stuff Stihl is marketing now , enjoy your peers doing the same and forget the past along with the obsolete clones that are actually one of the best marketing tools for the brand ever.
The 441 was the first Stihl w/ Husqvarna's "372/385 from the '90's" three spring style, as well as the Jonsered/Husqvarna style air cleaning with the flywheel. RS is almost a direct copy of LP and LGX. And the Autotune technology was originally Husqvarna in cooperation with others, Stihl bought into it. But here you going bit by bit battle and it's so completely pointless. Who cares really? Stihl makes awesome stuff. The new Fuel Injected 500i & 400i are their future not the saws of the past. Focus on that, Stihl customers will buy the new saw and won't even look twice at this old stuff. No clones will happen on the new Stihls or Husqvarna's until patents run out & they are obsolete, not even many spare parts for those newer saws either. And that is the heart of the OEM's business the saws they are selling now. Stihl and Husqvarna's markets are not effected by this low end stuff, no "pro" needing the best saw possible would ever go near a clone or kit saw, this is the hobbyist and enthusiast market, not the pro or even the typical landowner / homeowner type. And my point is ALL companies borrow designs , Stihl is no different than anyone else. But u are case and point why I avoided Stihl for so long, that attitude projected. It really doesn't matter whos on first what's on second. Stihl and Husqvarna BOTH borrow, current Husqvarna now have those t27's everywhere. Both make awesome models , and both have some not so great one. But both are awesome brands and I am a fan of models in both companies line up. So you won't get anywhere with your line of logic. I don't care. And my point is these kits and clones broaden the market for support and better repair options/replacement or upgrade parts. Husqvarna either was lucky or figured it out, there are lot of clone 372's with either OEM 50 or OEM 51.5 top ends and OEM ignitions. In fact the 51.4's are NLA. Wonder how THAT happenedWhat are you talking about Stihl has had anti-vibration system for what 5 or 6 decades?
You are saying Stihl did not put out the money for R&D and cloned someone else?
Who did Stihl clone the fuel injection from then?
You are the one that tapped me on the shoulder pal with your excuses telling me I was on a high horse, I have not spoken a word to you.The 441 was the first Stihl w/ Husqvarna's "372/385 from the '90's" three spring style, as well as the Jonsered/Husqvarna style air cleaning with the flywheel. RS is almost a direct copy of LP and LGX. And the Autotune technology was originally Husqvarna in cooperation with others, Stihl bought into it. But here you going bit by bit battle and it's pointless. But who cares really? Stihl makes awesome stuff. The new FI 500i & 400i are their future not the saws of the past. Focus on that, Stihl customers will buy the new saw and won't even look twice at this old stuff. No clones will happen on the new Stihls or Husqvarna's until patents run out & they are obsolete, not even many spare parts for those newer saws either. And that is the heart of the OEM's business the saws they are selling now. Stihl and Husqvarna's markets are not effected by this low end stuff, no "pro" needed the best saw possible would ever go near a clne or kit saw, this is the hobbyist and enthusiast market, not the pro or even the typical landowner / homeowner type. And my point is ALL companies borrow designs , Stihl is no different than anyone else. But u are case and point why I avoided Stihl for so long, that attitude projected. It really doesn't matter whos on first what's on second. Stihl and Husqvarna BOTH borrow, current Husqvarna now have those t27's everywhere. Both make awesome models , and both have some not so great one. But both are awesome brands and I am a fan of models in both companies line up. So you won't get anywhere with your line of logic. I don't care.
Why don't you do something useful and bring a little information to the table about bars. What is the difference between those two , has to be something. You can focus on me but I really don't care. The stuff I have is old news, even this new clone...if its not me someone else will buy and evaluate.
This was you not me. I was just reporting on something I experienced, sharing in a positive way. Point is you brought the "copy" into the equation as if it was a bad thing, not me.You are the one that tapped me on the shoulder pal with your excuses telling me I was on a high horse, I have not spoken a word to you.
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