Sometimes I wonder why I don't post much here or on any forum anymore, than I peek in, and I'm quickly reminded.
I don't take ANYTHING posted on internet forums to seriously....... You can get great information, or it can be "cheap entertainment", and it could be a long cold winter!Sometimes I wonder why I don't post much here or on any forum anymore, than I peek in, and I'm quickly reminded.
Agreed, and it's only going to get worse, and may never get better.I don't take ANYTHING posted on internet forums to seriously....... You can get great information, or it can be "cheap entertainment", and it could be a long cold winter!
They did it why? To sell flawed products to the unsuspecting customer. So they wouldn't be stuck with them.I didn't make a judgement either way. Just pointing out why they did it. Standard practice in industry btw.
And no, I wouldn't buy the old version.
First off you are speculating on if the product is indeed flawed and there are widespread problems. The problems could be very rare and Stihl updated as a continuous improvement thing.They did it why? To sell flawed products to the unsuspecting customer. So they wouldn't be stuck with them.
Standard practice for a company run by shady people maybe.
What did Toyota do when frames started rotting? Did they walk away leaving customers holding the bag? Nope. They bought back the trucks for 150% of their mint condition value.
All Stihl has to do is give a lifetime warranty for the cases cracking. Sell the old style saws and keep everyone happy.
But they can be open about what’s going on with their customers. It took them a while for them to engineer, tool up, and bring those changes to market; not something that happens overnight. For their official, regional sales reps to ‘not know anything’ is B.S.I wouldn't jump to conclusions just yet. Stihl may very well decide to extend the warranty on the components that have been updated.
Sales reps and dealers often know very little, so I am not suprised.But they can be open about what’s going on with their customers. It took them a while for them to engineer, tool up, and bring those changes to market; not something that happens overnight. For their official, regional sales reps to ‘not know anything’ is B.S.
Philbert
So, just how is a Stihl dealer (or any other brand dealer) going to react to a customer pulling a muffler on the showroom floor, on a saw that they haven’t purchased yet, and may not depending on what they find after pulling the muffler?lmfao
Being 'obviously deceptive' is hilarious to me....what an odd thing to be upset about. 'What!?!? All they did was cast a large fairly easily accessible identifying marking into the cylinder of the saw!?!? That's so obviously deceptive.'
True. And I've heard people say they prefer a lighter saw for most of their work (I'm one of them), but I also don't hear people complaining that "the 462, or the 500i or 881 is too heavy. I just hear them say they grab their lighter saws if they don't need to lug the heavier weight around. I've got both, a 462, and a 261. 90% of the time, I grab the 261 because it suits the work I'm doing, and don't need to carry around the extra weight of the 462 when doing what I'm doing. I've never heard people say "they should make the 881 lighter". And even if someone did, so be it, that's their opinion. I don't need to talk smack about whatever their opinion is. Whatever their opinion is is their business, not mine.
A major design change to an existing model is not a minor detail. Beyond improved performance or reliability you also now have different serial #'s with different components, which means different parts for service.
Ha, my exact thoughts.Sometimes I wonder why I don't post much here or on any forum anymore, than I peek in, and I'm quickly reminded.
Yes and no, they can make the saws much lighter and stronger than they are now, but look out for the complaining and whining about the price tag they would be sporting if Stihl or Husky did use titanium, tungsten, or chromium, for example on their housing, clutch covers, rewind cover, etc.The problem is all the Nancy-boys complaining about saws being too heavy, so they make em lighter by removing metal.
It’s in print, on the internet. And you have the audacity to question the validity.Sometimes I wonder why I don't post much here or on any forum anymore, than I peek in, and I'm quickly reminded.
I have no idea what you're talking about, but you proved my point non the less.A
It’s in print, on the internet. And you have the audacity to question the validity.
I work for a company that puts people into outer space, and technology that puts missiles right up the a$$es of our enemies. They could design a saw that was lighter, stronger, and more powerful than anything that's existed.... but it would take a year to make, cost $50,000, and they'd only make a handful at a time, haha.Yes and no, they can make the saws much lighter and stronger than they are now, but look out for the complaining and whining about the price tag they would be sporting if Stihl or Husky did use titanium, tungsten, or chromium, for example on their housing, clutch covers, rewind cover, etc.
Back to topic, my dealer has not had one single 462 come back for any issues pertaining to structural integrity. The few 460's and 61's I have seen roll through were from abuse and piss poor care of those fine saws.
My dealer also has one 461 that rolled in three weeks ago which they were told it is the last one they will see of them.
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