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[treebilly]

Zin do you have your terms mixed up? Our mechanics service truck crane has over 2000 pounds of line pull on the winch. I would think a 30 ton would be a minimum of 8000. My 40 ton is 11,600 and one of our subs has 3 38 ton cranes with 10,000 and 12,000 depending on which he brings out.

All 6 tree crews are hitting at least 40 hours a week right now. We’re also about to go to 6 days a week till the end of March when the bats return

 

[ZinTrees]

Zin do you have your terms mixed up? Our mechanics service truck crane has over 2000 pounds of line pull on the winch. I would think a 30 ton would be a minimum of 8000. My 40 ton is 11,600 and one of our subs has 3 38 ton cranes with 10,000 and 12,000 depending on which he brings out.

All 6 tree crews are hitting at least 40 hours a week right now. We’re also about to go to 6 days a week till the end of March when the bats return

nope, can only pull 3K with the winch on a single part line, found out the hard way when he didnt tell me, and I rigged up a 7000 pound pick from the ground, cable up just stops at 3K

 

[ZinTrees]

if I remember I will get a video of the LMI while he trys to pick up a log tuesday

 

[tree MDS]

bigger equipment is nice of course, I also dont have payments, you?

LOL, you're not even old enough to get a loan yet! Are you even a legitimate business? Do you even have a SS number? I thought you were just something Ma dropped out on the kitchen floor that she and Pa started raisin'.

 

[treebilly]

if I remember I will get a video of the LMI while he trys to pick up a log tuesday

Get a pic of his charts.
He would have to 20 part the line to make it a 30 ton

 

[ZinTrees]

Get a pic of his charts.
He would have to 20 part the line to make it a 30 ton

not the original winch, ive seen the charts, he should have like 12K line pull

the people that owned the crane before him swapped the winch out for whatever reason

 

[Helmstein]

not the original winch, ive seen the charts, he should have like 12K line pull

the people that owned the crane before him swapped the winch out for whatever reason

Baby zin playing with baby cranes. We should all gather and watch one of his jobs.

I busting major balls here. I give you credit kid you have come a long way! Your still a knucle head.


Pray for for Tree Vet!

 

[ZinTrees]

Your still a knucle head.

*you're

 

[ZinTrees]

the crane I use is because they are happy to do tree jobs, ive called literally every company in town and they refuse to touch a tree with their cranes, because some company here kept going company to company overloading them and ruined it for all of us, I would use a 150 ton (what is easy to get here) BUT they told me to piss off when I said it was a tree job

 

[dbl612]

bandit 250xp 12" with 115hp cummins
boxer 526DX with 56" BMG grapple
c7500 topkick 60' bucket truck with 14 yard chip box
GRCS when needed, also 30 ton crane on call when needed
2500 ram to tow 14ft dump trailer
stump guy comes with an SC292 and is also my ground guy on weekends when he isnt doing his full time job
we show up with both trucks, trailer and chipper to 75% of the jobs we do, 3 man crew

how do you figure that you have zero overhead?

 

[ZinTrees]

how do you figure that you have zero overhead?

if my equipment sits it cost nothing, I should have worded it better I guess
I have fuel costs and chains, that sort of stuff, but I can be shut down for a month and not cost a penny the way I run things
when it comes to running cost like fuel, thats all usually paid for in the first hour on any job, after that its all money in my pocket

 

[tree MDS]

how do you figure that you have zero overhead?

Umm... Imaginary tree service, action figure groundmen, doll house skid steer, etc. ...

 

[dbl612]

Zin do you have your terms mixed up? Our mechanics service truck crane has over 2000 pounds of line pull on the winch. I would think a 30 ton would be a minimum of 8000. My 40 ton is 11,600 and one of our subs has 3 38 ton cranes with 10,000 and 12,000 depending on which he brings out.

All 6 tree crews are hitting at least 40 hours a week right now. We’re also about to go to 6 days a week till the end of March when the bats return

do you think he is confused! most crane capacity is determined by boom length and load radius, not line pull.

 

[dbl612]

if my equipment sits it cost nothing, I should have worded it better I guess
I have fuel costs and chains, that sort of stuff, but I can be shut down for a month and not cost a penny the way I run things
when it comes to running cost like fuel, thats all usually paid for in the first hour on any job, after that its all money in my pocket

well guess thats true when you have no insurance and no real employees.

 

[ZinTrees]

well guess thats true when you have no insurance and no real employees.

I have insurance but its only a few hundred bucks a year
2 million general liability

 

[ZinTrees]

do you think he is confused! most crane capacity is determined by boom length and load radius, not line pull.

not confused at all, the chart can say hes good for 60K, BUT HIS WINCH CAN ONLY PULL 3K, dont understand how you guys dont get that

LINE PULL IS NOT CHARTED CAPACITY FFS

 

[treebilly]

Actually on the load chart it should have the single line pull capacity at the bottom. Might have two if they gave an option for standard or rotation resistant cable. That’s why I asked for the chart, not the range diagram. I’m just simply amazed by this 3000# line pull. I guess it beats carrying a piece by hand but that would get old quick having to cut four foot or shorter logs all day.

 

[ZinTrees]

Actually on the load chart it should have the single line pull capacity at the bottom. Might have two if they gave an option for standard or rotation resistant cable. That’s why I asked for the chart, not the range diagram. I’m just simply amazed by this 3000# line pull. I guess it beats carrying a piece by hand but that would get old quick having to cut four foot or shorter logs all day.

most of the trees I do we can do 10-12 foot logs, even in 26" red oak
going to put the block on tomorrow since we cant really risk the weight shift of taking the tree in multiple picks as its already sitting on a building with 2 of the 4 walls blown out

 

[ZinTrees]

Actually on the load chart it should have the single line pull capacity at the bottom. Might have two if they gave an option for standard or rotation resistant cable. That’s why I asked for the chart, not the range diagram. I’m just simply amazed by this 3000# line pull. I guess it beats carrying a piece by hand but that would get old quick having to cut four foot or shorter logs all day.

the load chart is not correct, it says 7400# line pull with rotation resistant cable, so what it says it can lift on a single line is complete BS, found out trying to pick a log off the ground and cable up literally stops somewhere around 3000 pounds, I asked about it on the last job, it is NOT the original winch and not the original spec

here is the chart you asked for not like it means a damn thing since its for a winch that is not on the crane any more
I will try to remember to anchor the hook to something solid like the front of my bucket truck and have him cable up till it stops and note how much he is pulling exactly, I remember trying to pick a 7K log and he could only get one end off the ground

 

[Helmstein]

*you're

You're* a real pisser!