Makes you wonder who tst is doesn't it.
Nope .........Wouldnt spend that kinda money on my 2153 .....
900.00 + for my 2153 is too much ......Id buy a 361 and a case of Jack first ...
Makes you wonder who tst is doesn't it.
Well cuse me,LOL
The sound gives that saw away. How many R's is that thing turning???
Last year at the OH spring GTG we ran both saws side by side in the same block. My 5100 had a good chain and the 346 was wearing 95vp.
Here are the times.
andyshine 5100 6.81
woodheater 346 6.90
I talked to Terry when I thought my dealer replaced the top end of my 5100 without me authorizing it. Ten minutes after speaking with Terry my dealer called apologetically said he mixed up the paperwork. That's the one and only time I spoke with him, and he did seem like a nice guy.
Nope .........Wouldnt spend that kinda money on my 2153 .....
900.00 + for my 2153 is too much ......Id buy a 361 and a case of Jack first ...
Nope .........Wouldnt spend that kinda money on my 2153 .....
900.00 + for my 2153 is too much ......Id buy a 361 and a case of Jack first ...
Im not sure there. some guy told me one time he had some kind of device that could tell with sound waves or something. He said 12 something in the wood. Who knows I just like the way she cuts.
OK fine. I'd just use the ones I have and buy a whole lot of Jack. Don't have much use for those small saws anyway.
Hello bigbore long time no see.
Hola! Nice you're back. Hope you are feeling better.
Unless you are a dealer, and have direct contact with the distributors in question... Your opinion on the matter is rather meaningless.
metals,
i don't want to come across the wrong way. i have no problem believing the bulk of the info in this thread. the only thing that really ran up the red flag with me was the '50 saws' thing.
i think in a round about way we might be agreeing on this. i could be wrong though.
please understand i am in no way trying to be confrontational about this. i stand by what i said before. i believe dolmar has some of each: bad batches, bad distributors, bad dealers, bad luck even.
"almost every" out of "about 50" would look fishy to me while discussing any product.
and yes, 36 of 100 or 50 of 200 is more believable.
I'm not fussing with ya, just pointing out there is a differance between people using the internet to get information before they buy verses them reading a site like this before they make a decision. Most folks interested in looking for information on Stihl will go to the Stihl website, not here, same goes for Husky and Dolmar. If they come here what can they get from it? Look at this thread, a war is going on over the 5100. Some say its great, others say it fails too fast. A potenial buyer wanting information would read this thread and go man those guys are nuts, look at em arguing over a dayumm chainsaw, who's right, who's wrong, who's lying, who's telling the facts, who's telling the BS.
I agree with you 100% the internet is a great tool and does bennifit both the manufacture and the potenial buyers. Forumns such as this bennifit those that want to argu, fuss, fued and fight and even help each other with problems. It has little to offer anyone that wants to buy a saw because just like this thread most buyers aren't willing to read and sort out all the bias and BS in it just to buy a chainsaw.
Last year at the OH spring GTG we ran both saws side by side in the same block. My 5100 had a good chain and the 346 was wearing 95vp.
Here are the times.
andyshine 5100 6.81
woodheater 346 6.90
I mean come on, what if you ran two of the same saw? Would you say something silly like "That 5100 will beat a 5100"?
This gets funnier and funnier as it goes on.
A particular saw gets beat by another saw by a tenth of a second and the loser has to hang his head in shame as if he just lost the Super Bowl.
But what really cracks me up is that these comparisons are only between 2 EXAMPLES of each saw model. If a single 346 beats a single 5100, or vice versa, it's only a comparison between those specific saws. So, it's kind of ridiculous to speak in terms of "The ###" beats "The ###" as if it applys to 10,000 other saws.
I mean come on, what if you ran two of the same saw? Would you say something silly like "That 5100 will beat a 5100"?
This gets funnier and funnier as it goes on......
.....I mean come on, what if you ran two of the same saw? Would you say something silly like "That 5100 will beat a 5100"?
This gets funnier and funnier as it goes on.
A particular saw gets beat by another saw by a tenth of a second and the loser has to hang his head in shame as if he just lost the Super Bowl.
But what really cracks me up is that these comparisons are only between 2 EXAMPLES of each saw model. If a single 346 beats a single 5100, or vice versa, it's only a comparison between those specific saws. So, it's kind of ridiculous to speak in terms of "The ###" beats "The ###" as if it applys to 10,000 other saws.
I mean come on, what if you ran two of the same saw? Would you say something silly like "That 5100 will beat a 5100"?
Thall, I believe that the internet will gain increasing importance in the future for anyone who wants to buy a chainsaw.
This place made me buy a 361 over a 360 about 5 years ago, and I was not a sawbuff at that time... A lot of Bias like you said, but if you have some common sense, it will not take you more than an hour to find out which poster is credible and makes valid points. I say there's a wealth of info on this site for anyone who want to buy a new saw.
We are still part of a generation that grew up without the internet and have different ways of making a purchase. Old school but not bad, at all.
I see my kids and they google the internet like there's no tormorrow. They are the internet generation that will make use of it much more than we can imagine I guess.
There's also a theory in sales that talks about positive and negative references. One negative or unhappy reference creates a lot of noise and badmouthing, and as such equals at least 10 positive references. So it is of utmost importance for any manufacterer to keep the number of negative customers to a miniumum, at least if they have a valid complaint.
Now if you have an nice network set up to deal with customer complaints efficiently, that will pay in the long run (Stihl....).
But the point I was actually trying to make is, don't underestimate the power of the net.
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