I see Klotz is still around...

[Sidecarflip]

Way back when, Klotz was the oil for high performance 2 stroke motors, I used it in my Kawasaki H1 750 triple (another story for another time) but..

Anyone use it in the saws or brush trimmers now? They have a direct buy website I see.

Is it any good? Just curious.

 

[jellyroll]

I have only used R50 and it seemed to perform well mixed at 50:1.

 

[singinwoodwackr]

Way back when, Klotz was the oil for high performance 2 stroke motors, I used it in my Kawasaki H1 750 triple (another story for another time) but..

Anyone use it in the saws or brush trimmers now? They have a direct buy website I see.

Is it any good? Just curious.

Used it for a short time…gummed up the cyl and exhaust.

 

[Sidecarflip]

Far as I can tell, it has no JASO rating either

 

[Jonny Quest]

I've been running Klotz R-50 in all my 2-cycle engines for many years. 40:1 mix ratio. Never had a failure of any kind due to oil. Personally, I like the Klotz products.

JQ

 

[mbrick]

I use Klotz Motorcycle Techniplate at 40:1 in my motorcycle and therefore often in saws when I have mix left over.
The oil is ashless. Their tech line says it's fine for saws but I do remember a recent thread here saying ashless is not ideal.
When I remove top ends everything is coated in oil.

When I make saw mix I use Husqvarna XP oil.

I wouldn't run R50 or the other benol blends because I think it will leave a messy residue. And it does not have as good of corrosion protection.

 

[HansFranz]

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

I used to buy this by the cases for my race saws and ported work saws. Only oil I trusted in the high price stuff.

Klotz Original Techniplate 100% synthetic . BLENDS WITH: Alcohol, Ethanol, Nitromethane, Gasoline, and E-85

Got tired of having to order it when got out of racing.

So tried VPracing oil 100% and does the same film IMO but it doesnt mix with nitro or alky like I needed back then for racing.

 

[bwalker]

Far as I can tell, it has no JASO rating either

The snowmobile product does and the also have a tcw3 marine oil that's actually certified.

 

[Evan]

R50 at 40/1 currently
Also find any oil works just aswell always wonder whos being fooled when guys say one oil doesnt work over another.

We all need juice to keep going each day

Is lieing to eachother that juice?

 

[Chevboy0167]

Oh the adventure begins!!

 

[mbrick]

Far as I can tell, it has no JASO rating either

They have said the Skicraft techniplate and Motorcycle techniplate are equal, take it for what that is worth... and the Skicraft techniplate is "NMMA® TC-W3 certified warranty compliant. JASO FD compliant."

https://klotzlube.com/shop/ols/products/xn-skicraft-techniplate-31am
I said motorcycle techniplate earlier but I am typically buying the skicraft techniplate for my jet skis.

 

[bwalker]

They have said the Skicraft techniplate and Motorcycle techniplate are equal, take it for what that is worth... and the Skicraft techniplate is "NMMA® TC-W3 certified warranty compliant. JASO FD compliant."

https://klotzlube.com/shop/ols/products/xn-skicraft-techniplate-31am
I said motorcycle techniplate earlier but I am typically buying the skicraft techniplate for my jet skis.

It'd not possible to pass both of those tests with the same oil.
It's a boat oil.

 

[mbrick]

It'd not possible to pass both of those tests with the same oil.
It's a boat oil.

That's what I figured. And whether the motorcycle is then also a boat oil is unclear but seems possible since they insisted they are equivalent and are all ashless.
Ok, I think you were posting the information I read previously about what we should or should not be using!

What do you think? Is this good oil or OK oil or should we be avoiding it?

 

[bwalker]

That's what I figured. And whether the motorcycle is then also a boat oil is unclear but seems possible since they insisted they are equivalent and are all ashless.
Ok, I think you were posting the information I read previously about what we should or should not be using!

What do you think? Is this good oil or OK oil or should we be avoiding it?

I would not use an ashless oil, period.
I am also not a fan of Klotz of any kind in a chainsaw. There are much better options.

 

[mbrick]

Ok, I'll continue mixing Husqvarna XP separately. I had been using it because I have premix on hand from power sports.

 

[Vintage Engine Repairs]

Use an ope specific oil.

EDIT:

O P E

 

[bwalker]

Use an *** specific oil.

EDIT:

O P E

There are plenty of non O P E oils that work excellent in saws.

 

[mbrick]

There are plenty of non O P E oils that work excellent in saws.

Could you share a few examples please?

 

[bwalker]

Could you share a few examples please?

Yamalube 2R, Maxima K2, Honda HP2 are all good.