Tzed250
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Why is this thread still consuming bandwidth?
If synthetic premium oils are so good?
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albert
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Why is that? Oh I forgot you know it all.
Slamm
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Because its an oil thread. I've heard that #### websites consume more web space than everything else combined. That said, starting last year, oil threads were starting to gain ground. I can't remember what the charts showed, but there was a 2,5 and 10 year projection and it didn't look good for ####, it looked like the oil threads were going to overtake them.
We will see,
Sam
Dunno...but if it doesn't die a natural death very soon I'll help it along a little.
The OP's question has been answered over and over and the restraint shown by some of you is remarkable.
borat
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Well, it's abundantly clear that when some cannot put down their biases long enough to truthfully answer my question, they resort to the schoolyard bully tactics of unfounded insults and inuendo.
Synthetic oil is an expensive and unnecessary luxury in day to day two cyle engine operation. That's not opinion. It's fact. As I said, take two cycle synthetic oil away and what will happen? Other than reducing the bloated bottom line of oil manufacturers and trimming profits for dealerships, nothing.
Synthetic oil is an expensive and unnecessary luxury in day to day two cyle engine operation. That's not opinion. It's fact. As I said, take two cycle synthetic oil away and what will happen? Other than reducing the bloated bottom line of oil manufacturers and trimming profits for dealerships, nothing.
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borat
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Ahhh, yeah, like I needed you to tell me that.
My posts are to enlighten the inexperienced and uninitiated to reality so that they don't get sucked into dumping hard earned money into something that will not do them anywhere near what it will cost them proportionally.
I'm certain the wiser ones will get the message.
My posts are to enlighten the inexperienced and uninitiated to reality so that they don't get sucked into dumping hard earned money into something that will not do them anywhere near what it will cost them proportionally.
I'm certain the wiser ones will get the message.
Tzed250
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None so blind as those who will not see...
Well, maybe some day you can gather enough like-minded followers and move away from the rest of us and form a society of your own. You know, a little enclave where your word will be taken seriously and you'll get the respect that you so obviously aren't getting here.
Until then, however, you'll just have to learn to deal with those of us who aren't swayed by your arguments and aren't terribly impressed with your logic.
Tough life, ain't it?
Oh, there's a special at my local saw shop on Stihl Ultra....After breakfast I should probably head down there and stock up. Want me to pick up some for you?
I don't want carbon build up in my engines that stihl orange bottle leaves and ultra stinks too bad and is more expensive than bel ray for me locally and even cheaper mail order. I ran klotz original techniplate and it does protect great but left a coating on the top of the piston.
sbhooper
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If you don't like synthetic oil, don't use it. See, that was easy wasn't it?
Exactly! Discussion over. It is your saw, run what you want. I will stay with synthetic for all of my equipment.
Slamm
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I'm with you on the stink of the Stihl orange bottle, I got a case of the orange bottle stuff for free and made up 5 gallons and that is the last 5 gallons I will use on purpose. I about died at the bottom of some big oaks cutting them off. I'm just not use to that smell. The Amsoil and other synthetics Royal Purple and such, don't seem to stink so bad.
I don't see them as being so costly, as a quart of Amsoil is only about $8 and it does burn cleaner.
I, like the OP, don't see the point of running crazy ratios of such good oil, when 50:1 is already fine if using regular oil and synthetic is proven to be better, it may not be necessary, but it is better than conventional.
That said you are never going to change people on gas or oil threads.
Sam
borat
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Appears to be a lot of animosity for a dissenting view.
I guess that's how it goes when logic prevails.
Regardless, I've made my point and despite several venomous replies, hold no grudge.
I guess that's how it goes when logic prevails.
Regardless, I've made my point and despite several venomous replies, hold no grudge.
Have you given any thought on maybe its not the dissenting view, as much as how that dissenting view is delivered?
Arbonaut
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It's better to look good than to feel good. You look mar velous
That's a gasket problem, not a Amsoil problem.
rms61moparman
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Your question, if you would stop fawning over your self long enough to let communication flow BOTH ways, has been answered a dozen times. Just because you aren't getting the answer you want doesn't mean the question wasn't answered!
Well thank you "Oh Great One" for leaving your ivory tower long enough to come all the way down here amidst "we little people" to share your great wisdom. Please find it in your heart to forgive us for not bowing down and kissing your royal ass as you cast your pearls of wisdom among us lowly swine. So kind of you to presume to enlighten us on how we spend our pittance and protect our investments!!!
You have one hell of a nerve presuming to educate the populace here.
We have done tens of thousands of dollars worth of research and years of comparing results.
You haven't begun to see venomous replies yet, but this one might give you a clue as to what you have in store if you persist in your condescending arrogance. In short, YOUR ATTITUDE SUCKS!!!
You have brought nothing new to this site with this thread as we the unknowledgeable hashed this out long before you ever decided to grace us with your presence.
Again in short, YOU AREN'T NEARLY AS SMART AS YOU THINK YOU ARE!
Even Calvin knew when the cards were against him. Maybe you can look him up and take some lessons!!!!!
Now put THAT in your pipe and extinguish it with whatever kind of oil you like!
I tried to be patient as I'm used to working with those with "special needs" but sometimes you just have to hear the truth "warts and all!!!
Mike
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Justsaws
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Fancy branded syn
$14.00 per quart/ 32 ounces per quart=$0.43 per ounce/$1.75 per gallon @ 32:1
--------------------------------------------------------------/$1.10 per gallon @ 50:1
Oil currently using
$4.80 per quart/ 32 ounces per quart=$0.15 per ounce/$0.60 per gallon @ 32:1
------------------------------------------------------------- /$0.38 per gallon @ 50:1
5 gallons of gas a month
$8.75/$5.50
$3.00/$1.90
12 months a year
$105.00/$66.00=$39.00 per year difference between 32:1 and 50:1 using cheap branded syn.
$36.00/$22.80=$13.20 per year difference between 32:1 and 50:1 using cheap dino.
$69.00 a year difference between cheap branded syn versus cheap dino at 5 gallons a month, with an additional 63% savings if a person choose to use 50:1 over 32:1. Using 50:1 cheap dino oil a person could save a total of $82.20 or 3 Husqvavrnas and a Stihl chainsaw.
I use 32:1 because the math is simple. Don't have TV but this thread needs more flog'n.
$14.00 per quart/ 32 ounces per quart=$0.43 per ounce/$1.75 per gallon @ 32:1
--------------------------------------------------------------/$1.10 per gallon @ 50:1
Oil currently using
$4.80 per quart/ 32 ounces per quart=$0.15 per ounce/$0.60 per gallon @ 32:1
------------------------------------------------------------- /$0.38 per gallon @ 50:1
5 gallons of gas a month
$8.75/$5.50
$3.00/$1.90
12 months a year
$105.00/$66.00=$39.00 per year difference between 32:1 and 50:1 using cheap branded syn.
$36.00/$22.80=$13.20 per year difference between 32:1 and 50:1 using cheap dino.
$69.00 a year difference between cheap branded syn versus cheap dino at 5 gallons a month, with an additional 63% savings if a person choose to use 50:1 over 32:1. Using 50:1 cheap dino oil a person could save a total of $82.20 or 3 Husqvavrnas and a Stihl chainsaw.
I use 32:1 because the math is simple. Don't have TV but this thread needs more flog'n.
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WidowMaker1
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lots of blah blah blah, ... i use synthetic air in my air/fuel ratio, ha and i make my own 2T oil out of liposuction oils! yes my saws run on Fat womens arses :msp_w00t:
borat
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"I use 32:1 because the math is simple."
Using 32:1 is also an excellent fuel to oil ratio. Two cycle racing engines of the past used 32:1 because it was the best balance between engine protection and power production.
I mix my fuel similarly, somewhere around 35:1. Everything I own seems to like it and I've yet to experience the dreaded "carbon build up". From my experience, if a two cycle engine has the carburetor set right and run properly (high rpms and normal operating temperatures), carbon accumulation shouldn't be that much of an issue.
I buy five liter jugs of excellent quality conventional two cycle oil for little more than the price of one quart of Amsoil synthetic. That math works for me!
Using 32:1 is also an excellent fuel to oil ratio. Two cycle racing engines of the past used 32:1 because it was the best balance between engine protection and power production.
I mix my fuel similarly, somewhere around 35:1. Everything I own seems to like it and I've yet to experience the dreaded "carbon build up". From my experience, if a two cycle engine has the carburetor set right and run properly (high rpms and normal operating temperatures), carbon accumulation shouldn't be that much of an issue.
I buy five liter jugs of excellent quality conventional two cycle oil for little more than the price of one quart of Amsoil synthetic. That math works for me!
