tallguys
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I love a good flippy cap thread.:smile2:
Much better than the usual run-of-the-mill Ford-Chevy-Dodge aka Husky-Stihl-Dolmar ones...
I love a good flippy cap thread.:smile2:
Here is a fact... a source of genetic pride for our family, kinda like graduating kindergarden or something else equivalent.
Just thinking out loud here, no insults intended...
Take into consideration not all flip caps are designed the same and they most certainly do not function the same. My little homeowner 211 has an oil cap that has give even the most diehard flip cap lover serous issues. The caps on my 362 work fine, and the cap on my 110 trimmer now works better with the new cap Stihl gave me for free.:smile2:
Fact is there was no logical reason for the flip caps to exist, other than making one more part that you have to buy from Stihl, just like their $20.00 fuel line, and $40.00 air filters.
Take into consideration not all flip caps are designed the same and they most certainly do not function the same.
The fact that someone's kid can operate his flippy caps says nothing about whether that someone can himself operate the flippy cap that's giving me trouble, even though I can easily operate my other flippy cap (all my other Stihls have the old-style caps). Unfortunately the Stihl dealers in Canada that I've talked to seem to know nothing about any cap recall. But they have agreed with me that the caps are awful and have generated many complaints. Perhaps it's a regional thing where Stihl shipped different caps, perhaps again only on certain products.
Take into consideration not all flip caps are designed the same and they most certainly do not function the same. My little homeowner 211 has an oil cap that has give even the most diehard flip cap lover serous issues. The caps on my 362 work fine, and the cap on my 110 trimmer now works better with the new cap Stihl gave me for free.
Take into consideration not all flip caps are designed the same and they most certainly do not function the same. My little homeowner 211 has an oil cap that has give even the most diehard flip cap lover serous issues. The caps on my 362 work fine, and the cap on my 110 trimmer now works better with the new cap Stihl gave me for free.:smile2:
Fact is there was no logical reason for the flip caps to exist, other than making one more part that you have to buy from Stihl, just like their $20.00 fuel line, and $40.00 air filters.
Now lets say that 1,000,043 people have the first rachet that requires 2 turns figured out, lets say that everyone (mentally) can handle that simple system of the star shape and the 2 turns.
Now lets say that 1,000,000 people can also figure out the second rachet with the little lever and the 1/2 turn manipulation, BUT there are 43 people that can't seem to figure it out, and in addition to the lack of mental capacity to correctly obtain the correct direction desired, they now have taken to writing about how they can't figure the system out and how the system must be faulty and it doesn't work .....................?????????????? When there are 1,000,000 that can successfully figure it out and don't have any problems with it.
Honestly, what are we to think about those noisy 43 people?
Just wondering, nothing is meant as an insult, just thinking out loud,
Sam
Once you get used to them, flippy caps are handy. You just have to make sure they fit tightly after filling up.
You may probably good with chainsaws but I seriously doubt your mathematical skills.
Before you start pissing on other AS members about their inability to operate a flippy cap, you should try to read first and understand the points made before you start to open your almighty knowing mouth.
1. 43 complaints.
If you had taken the time to read the first posts, they talk about 43% of the Stihl owners who voted, not 43 people....a little differance, eh...:help:
In the one big poll alone, 43% of the voters, i.e. 202 AS Members, which I consider to be regular saw users, voted against the Stihl cap. No need to brag about the intelligence level of your children, I am pretty much convinced ALL members know how to operate the famous Stihl cap.
2. how to operate
The point is not that the anti flippy cap crowd does not know how to operate them ; the point is that they dislike them for very particular reasons, all well documented. I can see you don't like to listen or read to other members comments, but that is your problem all along of course, not only in this thread. Not everybody likes to drink your coolaid, maybe it's time you start realizing that.
3. Zillions of other "satisfied" Stihl equipment users.
If nearly half of the professional and regular saw users on this forum considers them caps to be junk, wouldn't it be logical to assume that there may be a reasonable percentage of the zillion non professional users also not being satisfied about them caps ? I'd say may be even a higher percentage, based on the fact that joe homeowner has certainly less experience than the professional folks ? Nobody knows those numbers for real, but I am sure the Stihl dealers have a good hunch, but are afraid to confirm it....eh Thall ???
4. Stihl N° 1
Please stop using arguments Stihl being N°1 as an excuse for covering up a product flaw. Ignoring the problem is not going to help Stihl staying where they are. But like Thall said, they are going back to screwed caps on the smaller equipment, so that may be a good sign.
I was done with the flippy cap subject long ago, but if you see someone defend a hopeless case with false arguments, numbers and statistics, it's a bit difficult to stay on the side.
Okay so we have Stihl selling 6 million units, sure some of them don't have flippy caps, so maybe 2-3 million products have flippy caps .......... maybe just 1 million, .............. thats 1,000,000 units, and we have a few polls on Arboristsite where say 43-60 people don't like them .................. is that really a failure??
Not trying to sound like an elitist or anything, but after using and loving both flippy and screw caps on saws for many years and hundreds of gallons, I guess, I get the feeling that I would have to remove at least say 65% of my brain and then while the wound was still fresh and dripping with blood, I could still probably figure out how to successfully get them on correctly with the second try, LOL. I don't see how some of you figure out how to actually start these saws or sharpen the chains if you can't figure out something as simple as a flippy cap.
Below is a video my 11 year old son operating a flippy cap. Special note here: He is not a professional and hasn't had much if any training or experience with flippy caps .... yet see how wickedly fast he works that cap, LOL. I get the feeling that this video will simply amaze some of you ......... and that is really sad.
Just here to help,
Sam
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