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heyduke said:
seems like a great idea to use square ground chisel for a climbing saw, which seldom encounters the outrages of rock and dirt. but why do you use low kick-back chain? i think oregon still makes a professional lo-pro chain. carlton seems to have dropped it's full chisel lo-pro, a shame. i thought it was better than the oregon and the top plates were longer.
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It's green label chain, but don't let that fool you. The little bumpers on the drive links are so small and sit way below the actual rakers. I guarantee they in no way make the chain slower. I've been running 91vxl and this stuff is faster and smoother. I asked my dealer and he had no clue what PS3 was. He looked it up and said he could order it for $22 plus tax for a 52dl loop. I said "Pfff!". And got on ebay. I found 2 55dl loops shipped for $35. I took them to my dealer, bought some crap and then asked him to shorten my chains which he did for free because I spent money on other stuff. Woot! My echo guy said that they can do $400 on the saw, it'll be here in Thursday.

I haven't cut with my square filed chain yet but I'm sure it's performance will be nothing scoff at. I just like the idea of having the fastest, smoothest chain I can when in a tree taking a top. Plus the fact that it'll never see dirt or rocks. Btw, I file by hand and had this chain done in about 20min.
 
bootboy said:
It's green label chain, but don't let that fool you. The little bumpers on the drive links are so small and sit way below the actual rakers. I guarantee they in no way make the chain slower. I've been running 91vxl and this stuff is faster and smoother. I asked my dealer and he had no clue what PS3 was. He looked it up and said he could order it for $22 plus tax for a 52dl loop. I said "Pfff!". And got on ebay. I found 2 55dl loops shipped for $35. I took them to my dealer, bought some crap and then asked him to shorten my chains which he did for free because I spent money on other stuff. Woot! My echo guy said that they can do $400 on the saw, it'll be here in Thursday.

I haven't cut with my square filed chain yet but I'm sure it's performance will be nothing scoff at. I just like the idea of having the fastest, smoothest chain I can when in a tree taking a top. Plus the fact that it'll never see dirt or rocks. Btw, I file by hand and had this chain done in about 20min.
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i buy oregon vx, a no frills, no bumps chain, by the roll (or half roll) from baileys. i use mostly 12 inch bars so a little chain lasts a long time. what files do you use for your square grind? i'd like to watch over your shoulder some time. also, it would be interesting to compare your home brew square grind to a timberline sharpened full chisel, cutting cookies.

i've been using an echo 330t and a couple of 360t's for over five years now. once they're broken in and "tuned for max smoke" they run fine, last a long time. always start on one pull.
 
heyduke said:
i buy oregon vx, a no frills, no bumps chain, by the roll (or half roll) from baileys. i use mostly 12 inch bars so a little chain lasts a long time. what files do you use for your square grind? i'd like to watch over your shoulder some time. also, it would be interesting to compare your home brew square grind to a timberline sharpened full chisel, cutting cookies.

i've been using an echo 330t and a couple of 360t's for over five years now. once they're broken in and "tuned for max smoke" they run fine, last a long time. always start on one pull.
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I'm afraid there isn't going to be much of a contest between THAT square and ANY round full chisel.


Mike
 
PainAndMurphy said:
opinion: I think full-chisel will always let the bar go down with less friction since it clears better to the sides, to the whole width possible for the chain..
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On more powerful small saws the PS3 certainly cuts well. On less powerful saws you are likely to find that the standard round filed PS3 will cut slower than equivalent semi chisel such as Carlton N1. The PS3 has a fairly large cutter and kerf compared to N1 and a number of guys that have tried PS3 on 200T's etc have gone back to normal semi chisel LP.
I like PS3 on my MS241C but it drags my 200T's down too much in the sort of hardwoods I cut. N1 will actually cut faster and stay sharp longer plus use less fuel doing so.
 
No hardwoods to speak of here. 90% of what I cut is evergreen or cottonwood/poplar. Ps3 is the business.
 
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bootboy said:
It's green label chain, but don't let that fool you. The little bumpers on the drive links are so small and sit way below the actual rakers. I guarantee they in no way make the chain slower. I've been running 91vxl and this stuff is faster and smoother. I asked my dealer and he had no clue what PS3 was. He looked it up and said he could order it for $22 plus tax for a 52dl loop. I said "Pfff!". And got on ebay. I found 2 55dl loops shipped for $35. I took them to my dealer, bought some crap and then asked him to shorten my chains which he did for free because I spent money on other stuff. Woot! My echo guy said that they can do $400 on the saw, it'll be here in Thursday.

I haven't cut with my square filed chain yet but I'm sure it's performance will be nothing scoff at. I just like the idea of having the fastest, smoothest chain I can when in a tree taking a top. Plus the fact that it'll never see dirt or rocks. Btw, I file by hand and had this chain done in about 20min.
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Isn't this the same saw for 200 lessView attachment 301912 if so...
 
clintonior said:
Isn't this the same saw for 200 lessView attachment 301912 if so...
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= CS33EDT / CS33EDTP : Outdoor Power Equipment

Displacement 32.2mL (cc)
Max Power 1.3kw : CS33EDT
Max Power 1.2kw : CS33EDTP
Decomp.System NO
Fuel Tank Capacity 0.29L
Oil Tank Capacity 0.18L
Chain Pitch 9.53mm (3/8")
Guide Bar Length 300mm : CS33EDT(30)
Guide Bar Length 350mm : CS33EDT(35) / CS33EDTP(35)
Type of Guide bar Sprocket Nose
Chain Gauge 1.27mm (0.05")
Dimensions(L x W x H) 277 x 255 x 220mm
Dry Weight 3.4kg


Echo 355T

= Chainsaws, Professional-Grade Chain Saws, Top Handle Chain Saws | ECHO USA
Engine Displacement (cc) 35.8
Engine Displacement (cu in) 2.19
Starting System Reduced-Effort
Ignition System Digital
Carburetor (w/Purge Pump) Butterfly-Valve Diaphragm
Oiling System Automatic/Adjustable Clutch-Driven
Vibration Reduction System Standard
Available Bar Lengths (in) 14, 16
Fuel Capacity (fl. oz.) 11.2
Oil Capacity (fl oz) 8.2
Dry Weight (lbs)1 8
Consumer Warranty 5 years
Commercial Warranty 1 years
Rental Warranty 90 days

Not the same.

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clintonior said:
they look like they both rolled off the same assembly line . ones red ones black orange and grey care to clear up the real differences?
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32cc vs 35cc for starters. Take a close look, it's not hard to see that they are completely different saws different plastics, geometry, build style. I haven't been in both saws but I'd be willing to bet that are completely different when it comes to.... Everything.
 

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