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I am the one who sold this to Jack. I started the for sale ad. I started this whole ordeal?

I apologize Jack. And call me (you still have my #) don't know why you didn't call me yet.. This is not my M.O. Didn't sell it because I thought it was messed up. Sold it because I have addiction to buying and selling saws to get different ones. Have a bunch and always sell a bunch to keep a bunch :msp_unsure: When **** like this happens it hurts. I sold quite a few saws here. Some personal. Some where CL finds that I rebuilt and tested. Some I just bought and resold.

I am done selling here. As I do not need to have people here, thinking I am Tgerloff92.

FML...

DexterDay, I don't think anyone could possibly think you started this mess. It is clear you are a stand up guy, not Tgerloff92 or anything like him. It is people like you that are an asset to AS. I hope you reconsider your decision to offer items for sale on AS. I would buy a saw from you with no reservations.
I raised the question of someone (you) having possession of the saw after Tgerloff92. I wasn't implying any misconduct on your part. I just wanted everyone to keep an open mind and perform due diligence before a member was banned. When my day to be banned comes, that is all I can ask for. I want to apologize if my previous post put you on the defensive. You have no reason to feel defensive at all. DieselFitter
 
I thought about PMing tgerloff92 when he offered Brad the 261. He sounded like a standup young dude and I thought that I'd like to meet him as we both live in CO and I get to the NW corner of our state occasionally.

Fortunately I changed my mind. I couldn't figure out what he was doing with all the big saws, really all you need for our pine is a MS360... the only other common trees up there is Cottonwood, Aspen....
 
(QUOTE)I'm looking forward to meeting you too Andy.......I already feel like we have a lot in common my friend. :rock:



Yep.......everyone needs to be a Wiggs place on the 28th. We're gonna have a blast. :clap:[/QUOTE]

Ok Andy and Randy, what going on Sept. 28th? Who is and where is Wigg's place. Apparently I didn't get the memo? Randy will you have room to take an extra saw or two back for re-work?
 
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DexterDay, I don't think anyone could possibly think you started this mess. It is clear you are a stand up guy, not Tgerloff92 or anything like him. It is people like you that are an asset to AS. I hope you reconsider your decision to offer items for sale on AS. I would buy a saw from you with no reservations.
I raised the question of someone (you) having possession of the saw after Tgerloff92. I wasn't implying any misconduct on your part. I just wanted everyone to keep an open mind and perform due diligence before a member was banned. When my day to be banned comes, that is all I can ask for. I want to apologize if my previous post put you on the defensive. You have no reason to feel defensive at all. DieselFitter

Tgerloff92 did a lot of wrong here on AS. This situation is just one example. His username was one that really stunk up the place. Those in the "know" stayed clear. Word traveled fast.... unfortunately not fast enough or he'd still be stuck with his saws.
 
DexterDay, I don't think anyone could possibly think you started this mess. It is clear you are a stand up guy, not Tgerloff92 or anything like him. It is people like you that are an asset to AS. I hope you reconsider your decision to offer items for sale on AS. I would
buy a saw from you with no reservations.
I raised the question of someone (you) having possession of the saw after Tgerloff92. I wasn't implying any misconduct on your part. I just wanted everyone to keep an open mind and perform due diligence before a member was banned. When my day to be banned comes, that is all I can ask for. I want to apologize if my previous post put you on the defensive. You have no reason to feel defensive at all. DieselFitter

Just seen this and it wasn't you. But unlike some (Tgerloff) I want to continue to be a part of this community. Some run and hide. I am right here and want to fix what I F'kd up.....

No offense taken... Just want to make it right with Randy. I want to send something down his way. But every time I do, something in the classifieds catches my eye. :confused:
 
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Only 50? Pffffttt...I have wedges older than that.

You have wedges older than Moses...... :msp_tongue:

Ok Andy and Randy, what going on Sept. 28th? Who is and where is Wigg's place. Apparently I didn't get the memo? Randy will you have room to take an extra saw or two back for re-work?

WKY GTG Sept. 28th Murry KY.......be there. :cheers:
 
Just seen this and it wasn't you. But unlike some (Tgerloff) I want to continue to be a part of this community. Some run and hide. I am right here and want to fix what I F'kd up.....

No offense taken... Just want to make it right with Randy. I want to send something down his way. But every time I do, something in the classifieds catches my eye. :confused:


I have the exact same problem. Usually, it's that I have one in his shop (and it sits there sssssssooooooooooooooooooooo longggggggggggggggg):potstir: that I need to fill a void and I wind up buying something else. Works out for both of us- he is guaranteed to port anything I buy and I get a new saw.:rock: It is an exercise in patience though when Im waiting for that "methodical think tank" to finish my toys so I can play with them. Take my 2100cd- I bought it from Jon1212...... never cranked it........ sent it to Randy for a FULL rebuild and port just bc........ and now he's sittin on it foolin with Tgerloffs Dolly. :bang: :potstir: :poke: :jester: :hmm3grin2orange:

Note: All them Characters mean my last comment was in good fun- not being an Azz or nothing.
 
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I personally think randy is a stand up guy just like a lot of people on here :cheers:,,, but most of the guys here that stand up are still only waste high
that discribes me! alot of guys i meet from this forum are way taller than me...... any bar longer that 24" would be hard
for me to keep out of the dirt!
 
Me too. Thirty was rough. I felt like an instant old fart. I know its not that old but thirty feels like you just left the good old days in your twentys


Turning 30 didn't feel any different for me. Just crossed 40 last month. That one I felt...

I'll be 50 next year......you 30 somethings quit yer #####in. :msp_rolleyes:


And turn down that loud music while yer at at. Damn kids....


Only 50? Pffffttt...I have wedges older than that.

You have wedges older than Moses...... :msp_tongue:

But none as old as SS.
 
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it looks like it was re-ported by a smurf with a partner k650!
when quizzed about the port work he said " I like to smurf holes all through the cylinder from the outside to improve air flow" This made him so happy he got really enthusiastic with his blue goo.
 
That intake is over the TOP and takes the cake!!!!!:dizzy: I can only imagine what was going threw his head when doing this and slathering it back together blue RVT. Especially that intake......wow just wow:msp_scared:

Ok now I'm ready to see what this 395 looks like.:hmm3grin2orange::sword:
 
I'm not generally one to kiss and tell, but this story makes me willing to lay out some cards in the hopes of protecting some other AS members. Maybe I should have spoken up earlier.

I bought a 441 cm described as "as new with only a few tanks through it" or something like that, from Tyrel (tgerloff) back in October last year. The condition of the saw was far from consistent with the description. It was well down on power compared to the other (stock) 441's I've got, so I opened it up to take a look. Somebody who had never had a 441 and bought it might have thought that was how they were supposed to run, and might have been afraid to open it up and decided to just live with it. The cylinder was a carbon copy of the one in this thread, right down to the blue goop. Mine wasn't quite as butchered as the one shown, but it had plenty of other problems. Tyrel changed his story and said someone had ported it for him etc... but it was pretty clear he'd done it himself. In the end we settled on him covering the cost of a new top end and I was happy with that. Time passed and the new top end never materialized and the story kept changing. This was around the time of the Jasha 261 incident and I gave Brad a heads up because it sounded like that whole thing would turn out bad and I was thinking that both the buyer of the saw and Jasha would be feeling uncomfortable. I ended up buying a new top end myself which nmurph sent me, and just wrote it off but Brad must have a way with words because he said something to Tyrel which caused the full purchase price of the saw to appear in my account one day, minus shipping.

Well, nobody can complain about a free saw, and I figured he'd made it more than right and I was happy enough. I ended up paying for the new top end, a muffler, gaskets etc and some small parts. That saw has always been weird though, and I've found lots of little things wrong with it over time. It might be worth contacting the guy about it, might get something out of him. I've still got his number which I would be happy to give to whoever it was bought this saw or Randy.

For your amusement, here's some reading and some pics;

Here's a post tgerloff 'liked'. I thought it might make for some fun reading to go along with the pics. Original post by canadiancarguy;

From my experience with the 441, take your die grinder and stick that rasp as far up those skinny little slits for transfers and widen them, then be careful on the intake port only a small window to work with, raise it a little and widen it a little. Then the other two passages in the intake can be straightened out and widened. Machine the cylinder down a little, sandpaper works for this if you have patience and check the squish for even number all the way around. Then widen the exhaust, cut the muffler in half, cut that snorkel of a baffle out, weld muffler back together and another port. Remove limiter caps from carb, grind the key slot out of the flywheel, advance timing 12 degrees to 16 degrees. Then you will have a 441 that eats 460s at least stock ones. Also watch out for the throttle cable coming out, it made me think I had an air leak and I must tore the saw apart 4 or 5 times trying to see if I have screwed something up with my porting.

From the look of the cylinder, he took it to heart. It's been hacked away pretty much all over, but I don't think a lot was removed from the ports. The muffler is a write off. There were lots of weird little things, like the plug was gapped at over 1/8", and the carb had been reassembled wrong. That one took me some head scratching because I haven't disassembled one of these before. The trigger wouldn't open the throttle the whole way, and it wouldn't click off choke by squeezing the throttle. After comparing it to another saw I found that the cable was in the wrong place, and the carb hadn't been fit into the white plastic thingy on the right hand side. If you think anything can be done with this one I'd be curious to hear.

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Of all the places to try and fake guys out with ####ty saw work, why would you pick arboristsite though? It's like trying to pass your finger paintings off as the original mona lisa to a bunch of art critics. He should have gone with ebay. Oh well.....

Shaun
 
I'm not generally one to kiss and tell, but this story makes me willing to lay out some cards in the hopes of protecting some other AS members. Maybe I should have spoken up earlier.

I bought a 441 cm described as "as new with only a few tanks through it" or something like that, from Tyrel (tgerloff) back in October last year. The condition of the saw was far from consistent with the description. It was well down on power compared to the other (stock) 441's I've got, so I opened it up to take a look. Somebody who had never had a 441 and bought it might have thought that was how they were supposed to run, and might have been afraid to open it up and decided to just live with it. The cylinder was a carbon copy of the one in this thread, right down to the blue goop. Mine wasn't quite as butchered as the one shown, but it had plenty of other problems. Tyrel changed his story and said someone had ported it for him etc... but it was pretty clear he'd done it himself. In the end we settled on him covering the cost of a new top end and I was happy with that. Time passed and the new top end never materialized and the story kept changing. This was around the time of the Jasha 261 incident and I gave Brad a heads up because it sounded like that whole thing would turn out bad and I was thinking that both the buyer of the saw and Jasha would be feeling uncomfortable. I ended up buying a new top end myself which nmurph sent me, and just wrote it off but Brad must have a way with words because he said something to Tyrel which caused the full purchase price of the saw to appear in my account one day, minus shipping.

Well, nobody can complain about a free saw, and I figured he'd made it more than right and I was happy enough. I ended up paying for the new top end, a muffler, gaskets etc and some small parts. That saw has always been weird though, and I've found lots of little things wrong with it over time. It might be worth contacting the guy about it, might get something out of him. I've still got his number which I would be happy to give to whoever it was bought this saw or Randy.

For your amusement, here's some reading and some pics;

Here's a post tgerloff 'liked'. I thought it might make for some fun reading to go along with the pics. Original post by canadiancarguy;

From my experience with the 441, take your die grinder and stick that rasp as far up those skinny little slits for transfers and widen them, then be careful on the intake port only a small window to work with, raise it a little and widen it a little. Then the other two passages in the intake can be straightened out and widened. Machine the cylinder down a little, sandpaper works for this if you have patience and check the squish for even number all the way around. Then widen the exhaust, cut the muffler in half, cut that snorkel of a baffle out, weld muffler back together and another port. Remove limiter caps from carb, grind the key slot out of the flywheel, advance timing 12 degrees to 16 degrees. Then you will have a 441 that eats 460s at least stock ones. Also watch out for the throttle cable coming out, it made me think I had an air leak and I must tore the saw apart 4 or 5 times trying to see if I have screwed something up with my porting.

From the look of the cylinder, he took it to heart. It's been hacked away pretty much all over, but I don't think a lot was removed from the ports. The muffler is a write off. There were lots of weird little things, like the plug was gapped at over 1/8", and the carb had been reassembled wrong. That one took me some head scratching because I haven't disassembled one of these before. The trigger wouldn't open the throttle the whole way, and it wouldn't click off choke by squeezing the throttle. After comparing it to another saw I found that the cable was in the wrong place, and the carb hadn't been fit into the white plastic thingy on the right hand side. If you think anything can be done with this one I'd be curious to hear.

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Of all the places to try and fake guys out with ####ty saw work, why would you pick arboristsite though? It's like trying to pass your finger paintings off as the original mona lisa to a bunch of art critics. He should have gone with ebay. Oh well.....

Shaun

Glad you posted.
 

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