Masterminded 362c 87 octane vs 94

[Moparmyway]

When I look at any of the P&C pictures of the BelRay, I find myself asking out loud "Did the guy even run it ?" ......... including yours Brian.
Obviousely your muffler tells a different story, but I aint too worried about protection or a layer of gunk on my 2 cycle mufflers

All of the other pictures of every other mix, I have been able to see that the machine was ran.


Randy,
We knew you had to run the Bel Ray out, and I am not in a rush to hear your opinion of K2 ............. but when you decide how you like it, I am sure we will all listen VERY carefully !!

 

[Hedgerow]

Oh, and my theory is, that wasn't blow by...
The oil was sticking to the parts as it should, but it only got cooked onto the hottest surfaces...
Which would be all the way around the crown...
Think deep fryer using bean oil...

 

[Trx250r180]

When I look at any of the P&C pictures of the BelRay, I find myself asking out loud "Did the guy even run it ?" ......... including yours Brian.
Obviousely your muffler tells a different story, but I aint too worried about muffler protection on my 2 cycle stuff

All of the other pictures of every other mix, I have been able to see that the machine was ran.


Randy,
We knew you had to run the Bel Ray out, and I am not in a rush to hear your opinion of K2 ............. but when you decide how you like it, I am sure we will all listen VERY carefully !!

I would like to point out all my mufflers are not as soaked inside as that hybrid ,they are moist with oil ,but not dripping as bad as that saw ,i am thinking maybe the finger ports may have something to do with it forcing more fuel out the exhaust is all i can come up with ,here is my ms660 i mill with ,maybe the milling runs hotter to burn more off ,i am not 100% sure but it has good oil protection ,just not dripping like the hybrid this is also h1r 32 to 1 92 super unleaded with 10% ethanol out of the pump

 

[Moparmyway]

You used that milling ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?
Holy cow !! (NOT an invitation for DSS)

Again .......... I find that piston top to be just about unbelieveable, if I just look at the piston, I would wager that it wasnt even ran !

 

[KG441c]

You used that milling ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?
Holy cow !! (NOT an invitation for DSS)

Again .......... I find that piston top to be just about unbelieveable, if I just look at the piston, I would wager that it wasnt even ran !

Ester oils run very clean

 

[Moparmyway]

Ester oils run very clean

Bel Ray H1r runs superbly clean ................ all of the other oils, as good as they may well be, as clean as they might run, do not run that clean !

I have already ordered a liter of Bel Ray H1r and a quart of K2 ............ but I will wait patiently to hear from Randy.
I suspect he will give his blessing for K2, and let us know that it coats the innards with oil very well, along with a disclaimer that it doesnt run as clean on the top of the piston, and his nose thanks him

 

[blsnelling]

Oh, and my theory is, that wasn't blow by...
The oil was sticking to the parts as it should, but it only got cooked onto the hottest surfaces...
Which would be all the way around the crown...
Think deep fryer using bean oil...

That makes perfect sense.

 

[Hedgerow]

That makes perfect sense.

Well, don't tell anybody....

I got a rep to uphold...

 

[Trx250r180]

You used that milling ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?
Holy cow !! (NOT an invitation for DSS)

Again .......... I find that piston top to be just about unbelieveable, if I just look at the piston, I would wager that it wasnt even ran !

That exhaust port is polished so that also helps with less carbon build up ,when i ran stihl mix 50 to 1 i had carbon build up in the exhaust port though

And yes that saw is only used on my norwood mill for making lumber ,that saw has had a lot of fuel run through it ,cutting a 12 inch wide board ,i uses about a tank of fuel in about 3 12 foot passes ,cutting a 2x6 i use less fuel ,get maybe 12 passes per tank

I also run my saws rich ,but they run clean in the cuts

 

[Mastermind]

That exhaust port is polished so that also helps with less carbon build up ,when i ran stihl mix 50 to 1 i had carbon build up in the exhaust port though

And yes that saw is only used on my norwood mill for making lumber ,that saw has had a lot of fuel run through it ,cutting a 12 inch wide board ,i uses about a tank of fuel in about 3 12 foot passes ,cutting a 2x6 i use less fuel ,get maybe 12 passes per tank

I also run my saws rich ,but they run clean in the cuts

That 660 is another test saw we did too. We needed a crank for it and Weedeaterman supplied we a AM crank to test. It's still going......and on a mill to boot!!!!

 

[sunfish]

Stumpy's brain works differently...
He wanted to know what a well broke in stock 562 was capable of before he even opened it up...
I cut year around... Once you hit 100 degrees, that'll separate the workers from the players...
The autotune did it's job, and he was happy with the results..
Even if he did have to clean all that freaking brown goo off the P&C...
And that weren't no small task.....

It is actually a very good idea to compare a well broken in saw against a ported one. Good for Stumpy!

 

[Mastermind]

It is actually a very good idea to compare a well broken in saw against a ported one. Good for Stumpy!

I agree to a point......but compare a new ported saw to a new stock saw is just as meaningful.

Comparing a well broken in ported saw to a new stock saw, would be hedging bets by us guys that port these things though.

 

[sunfish]

I agree to a point......but compare a new ported saw to a new stock saw is just as meaningful.

Comparing a well broken in ported saw to a new stock saw, would be hedging bets by us guys that port these things though.

Well, that make sense also...

 

[mdavlee]

That exhaust port is polished so that also helps with less carbon build up ,when i ran stihl mix 50 to 1 i had carbon build up in the exhaust port though

And yes that saw is only used on my norwood mill for making lumber ,that saw has had a lot of fuel run through it ,cutting a 12 inch wide board ,i uses about a tank of fuel in about 3 12 foot passes ,cutting a 2x6 i use less fuel ,get maybe 12 passes per tank

I also run my saws rich ,but they run clean in the cuts

Big difference in fuel usage from hardwoods to softwoods. The 660 would use a tank on 16" wide poplar 11.5' long. On the cherry the 390 with 22" wide was using 2 tanks for 9'.

 

[Mastermind]

When is your 346 suppose to be there Don?

 

[Trx250r180]

Big difference in fuel usage from hardwoods to softwoods. The 660 would use a tank on 16" wide poplar 11.5' long. On the cherry the 390 with 22" wide was using 2 tanks for 9'.

Yes cedar i get better fuel economy than fir also ,i have not milled hardwoods ,and am limited to about 22-24 inch wide slab max with my setup

Maybe you need to sharpen your chain

 

[sunfish]

When is your 346 suppose to be there Don?

Today! FedEx usually delivers late afternoon. I need to get on the tractor and drag some logs up to the shop. But it'll be a couple days before I have time for that. Really lookin forward to it, bubba!!!

 

[Mastermind]

Let us know how it compares to what you've been running.

 

[mdavlee]

Yes cedar i get better fuel economy than fir also ,i have not milled hardwoods ,and am limited to about 22-24 inch wide slab max with my setup

Maybe you need to sharpen your chain

I wish it was the case. Hardwoods is a lot slower going milling. I never got into one with the 088 that I couldn't finish with a tank. The 395 will usually finish a 9-10' cut 20" wide on one tank but not have much left.

 

[sunfish]

Let us know how it compares to what you've been running.

I sure will...