Possibly on yours, yes........... but IIRC, there were still other variables that should have been considered in your testing.
The best way to tell for sure is to do back to back to back testing with an autotune or M-tronic saw and the same chain
Test cut with muffler #1
Test cut with muffler #2
Test cut with muffler #1
Test cut with muffler #2
Test cut with muffler #1
Test cut with muffler #2
Then the results will show a trend this way.
I would argue 2 points
1. considering I tune everything with the same method and I get varying results on different combos. Then it makes sense I would get a varying result with the muffler removed. Which I did.
Put another way - If I tuned every combo with the same method and the muffler removed combo is that good, then it should have showed a better time than the other combos. I may not have been the ideal tune for it (debatable) however if it was that good then it should have at least beat the others.
Quite honestly it actually felt more powerful, sounded better, seemed to rev nicer. But it just didn't deliver. This is the same result I experienced with the 461. I think it's just how loud it is that gives you a placebo effect of more power.
2. It's not that hard to tune these things. Most of the adjustment is in the idle. And my understanding is the idle adjustment does actually deliver a large percentage of the total fuel through out the travel of the throttle.
The accepted norm on the idle is always 2700. The L doesn't really change more then a C-hair. And the H... on everyone of them was a C-hair between 13100 and 13200 ...four stroking at either one. I guess one could do a mini test before hand and gauge time with 13200 and then 13000 and see which is better and if you get a better result with 13k go to 12800. But honestly, while it would be interesting, based on all my testing, I don't see even a 1 sec gain coming from that fine tuning.
I mean man when I was putting the 461 up against the 660 I was fine tuning and the most I could ever get was .6 seconds. I mean it just got to a point where it was like "this is fckin stupid".
Which 044 is running hotter ?
Dont need a temp gun when you have witness marks
If your running 50 to 1 I would agree. If your running 40 to one and it's a non ported saw. I would argue that 40 to 1 would actually run hotter.
Stock saw - less compression - oil is less displaced - oil burns hotter.
ported saw - more compression - oil is more displaced - thus requires more oil for lube - burns same as 50 to 1 in stock saw.
I am switching my 661 over to .404 and the Stihl site shows 104 DL for a 36" setup for the 661 and 108Dl for the 088.
I am telling it here first, 104DL is too small and will NOT fit, 108 is too long and will not tighten the chain, I believe the 661 needs 106DL to have the adjuster work properly, will know for sure when the presets come in.
cannon bar - shows 104 dl's as well on their s1 3003 12mm mount 404 36" bar.
