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Mix ratio -- observing the blue smoke
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Amsoil 40to1 thru 80to1 ftw
Actually Amsoil recommends Sabre Professional usage from 50:1 to 80:1 as a Premix Ratio . However @ 40:1 with its additives there should be no downside Woodanhor . However Sabre has reduced solvent content which increases its film strength to achieve lubricity protection at leaner ratios . That is why it is not recommended @ richer oil ratios . It does have dispersent & anti oxidation additives to protect metal surfaces when engines are in storage . Its a great FC rated oil which pretty well meets the FD Specifications . I used it for many yrs until most recently changing to a Certified FD rated oil in Maxima Premix oil . So far I am happy with its performance also, just a little pricy though lol.
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Most oils have excessive additives because that is cheaper for them than a good group three oil. So what you need to know is how much oil and what group oil is in your mix oil. It isn't easy to find out, they don't want you to know. They hide behind the line "especially formulated. Yea especially formulated to increase profits. This is a good read if you take the time..........http://www.dragonfly75.com/moto/oil.html
Good information Termite , I tend to agree . I have read the Dragonfly correspondence previously . I believe the company line on oil manufacturers is highly proprietary . If it was not for Health & Safety Legislation and freedom of information legislation within North America , they would still be selling machinist coolent ( skilly) with formaldehyde . At any rate thanks for your insight within the distinction of base Mineral oils and Premium Synthetics , I agree . I think the biggest profit margins must be within the Marine Oil manufacturing sector lol. There have been numerous snake oil recipes over the years that follow your theory. Thanks bud !
I only use Amsoil full synthetic.
Just my 2 cents worth !!!!
Just my 2 cents worth !!!!
What would I be crying about?
you are a weird guy
you are a weird guy
Huh? I guess Broken deleted a post or two.
I believe , your on record to have done the same ace , two wrongs don't make it right bud !
The next time you look at the split wood pile see if you can determine what kind of oil was used. My bet is it looks the same. The other day I broke down and bought a huge supply of oil because it looked cost effective. Even if all my saws blow up and pretty sure they won't oils do not come with a guarantee that the saws will last a life time. Thanks
I believe , your on record to have done the same ace , two wrongs don't make it right bud !
pretty sure not, although in your brilliance you have at least admitted that you did. Amusingly, it is because you aren't bright enough to get the jist of what I said, so you quoted me twice with two different reactions. Just a little slow...
also a little insecure as evidenced by your initial spouting of your age and experience, blah, blah, blah. I fell into that trap for a moment...Then you carried on careening around "liking" and quoting and answering everyone cordially (while disparaging mercilessly and insulting myself and another at every turn) as you attempted to make friends to make yourself feel better about yourself and get people on "your side" in your quest for all out dominance and superiority.
you ma'am are a pompous bully with some kind of a weird streak that I haven't quite put my finger on yet.
bud.
Wow , your one sick little puppy bud ! Lots of assumptions & assertions on your part . Speaking of ass,s & disparaging remarks , it would appear you have the market share there. Actually , I think your writing a book lol. I thought you previously stated that we " could just agree to not agree " lmao P.S. hope you feel more like a real man now , that you had your rant ! Seriously , take this to a PM if you need to rant & spread further cow fodder. Its rather obvious that we disagree , let it go pleeeeese !
Pretty well sums it up !
your sporadic excessive smoking could be very well attributed to a carburation issue or air leak issue from seals or gaskets . Edgers are troublesome units at times . Something as small as a fouled air filter will wreak havoc with proper tuning and overall performance . Oil ratio or type could be secondary consideration only .
Termite
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BRP/ Ski Doo quit recommending synthetic oil to be used in their snowmobile engines in 2006.
https://2strokeheads.com/index.php/...stroke-vs-4-stroke-synthetic-vs-non-synthetic
https://2strokeheads.com/index.php/...stroke-vs-4-stroke-synthetic-vs-non-synthetic
I have never been a big fan of synthetic products because of the way oil is dispersed into gasoline. I do believe that they are better suited for gasoline laced with alcohol. However there are so many products and happy customers that use synthetic based oils I am sure this can not be an all bad thing. Thanks
Totally off topic, but years ago, I owned a 1990 dodge with a Cummins engine, one of my coworkers owned the same truck just a 92. He ran dino oil, and I always ran synthetic oil. We got into a debate over which was better. Working for a diesel engine machine shop we sent off oil samples regularly. Asked the boss if it was ok to do some testing between our 2 trucks. He said yep, would be interesting to see. We both changed oil at the same time, and faithfully tested the oil every 1k miles. We would both be present to witness the other taking the samples. The results were sent to our boss and he reviewed them with us when they came in. There wasnt much difference in degradation until we got to the 6k mark on the dino oil. It started showing higher acidity, and lower numbers on the additive package. It was decided that he needed his oil changed at that point. The oil in my truck still showed it was good for use. We continued the testing till we hit close to the same parameters with the synthetic oil. That was at 9k miles. The test results came back and indicated there was still some life left, but for all intensive purposes it was time for a change. Few years later I blew the head gasket, and decided it was time to pull the engine down and go over it. The inside was very clean, with little wear. This was at 267k miles on the engine. Basically everything speced out within wear tolerance closer to new then reject. The cylinders were honed for new rings, new bearings went in, amd that was really about all that was changed. I I ended up selling the truck shortly after that. The kid that bought it is still driving it to this day, and has close to 340k miles on the truck now. Last I spoke with my old coworker, his truck was retired as the farm truck. He claims it still runs and drives, but doesnt have the pep it once did. I would love to get inside his engine and see how worn it is, when we did our testing both trucks had similar mileage on them, and had similar work loads. He still to this day doesnt believe in synthetic oils. I do and run it in all my vehicles. Lowest mileage vehicle I own has 185k on the clock. Cant say if it's the oil, or just religiously changing it.
Yes Sean you are off topic, but it still is not relevant to the topics at hand. Interesting story though. And I can think of some just the same. I started building two stroke motors when I was eleven and then went to a small custom tune repair shop. After about fifteen years I finally liquidated the business. During those years I rebuilt modded several thousand two strokes. Dirt bikes, snow mobile, jet ski, and road race power plants plus worked for a major manufacturer for awhile. I was always surprised that oil almost never had any thing to do with any thing. This does not mean that if you took a race engine with 100:1 Amsoil it would not blow up. It most likely would blow up. Air cooled engine vs. liquid cooling is a big deal. Tighter tolerances for liquid cooled motor vs. a chain saw motor which is a big deal. More space for oil to permeate is a big deal. Comparing a diesel engine to a two stroke unless it is a two stroke diesel is some what off topic. It could be fun, but none the less off. Still wood never seems to care what kind of oil being used. Thanks
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