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Personally as long as it meets the requirements for air cooled equipment and is not synthetic I run it. I’m not brand dependent I do find it funny that if you look through owners manuals it says one ratio for their oil and a heavier ratio for other oils I do believe my manual for my Stihl kombi too says 50 to 1 with Stihl oil and 32 or 25 to 1 with other brands.
 
Personally as long as it meets the requirements for air cooled equipment and is not synthetic I run it. I’m not brand dependent I do find it funny that if you look through owners manuals it says one ratio for their oil and a heavier ratio for other oils I do believe my manual for my Stihl kombi too says 50 to 1 with Stihl oil and 32 or 25 to 1 with other brands.
What ratio do they recommend for snake oil?
 
Personally as long as it meets the requirements for air cooled equipment and is not synthetic I run it. I’m not brand dependent I do find it funny that if you look through owners manuals it says one ratio for their oil and a heavier ratio for other oils I do believe my manual for my Stihl kombi too says 50 to 1 with Stihl oil and 32 or 25 to 1 with other brands.
Super funny given Stihl oil is garbage.
 
Super funny given Stihl oil is garbage.
Up here their Dino oil is just Castrol in a different bottle.
I run anything that isn’t marine have tired just about anything currently running motormaster(Canadian tire brand) bc I got it by the jug on sale I do the same for bar oil.
 
In the past I always added oil first into my mix cans, shook it up and lived a happy life. THEN I bought three new white translucent Stihl cans, Two "Dolmars" and 2 1/2 gallon can. I added the oil and then Chevron Supreme and shook my normal amount. I found the oil did not disperse but left a lot on the bottom at the spot where it landed on the bottom of the can. The amount of shaking it took to truly mix all the oil was astounding. After that I added the oil after filling the can because it made it easier the mix the oil into the gasoline.

PS I was using Opti 2, Blendzall, and Stihl (I forget which grade). I liked Blendzall the best but it doesn't have a dye and make my boss and coworkers go crazy.

PPS Anyone living in Cali knows that part of the reasons, there are many, that we got "new" plastic gasoline cans was that Scientists discovered the old type of plastic would allow lighter components of gasoline to permeate the walls and escape to the atmosphere. Now the new Dolmar cans are metal. That way fumes can't escape through the plastic, gasoline will now have to wait until the seams start leaking.
When I measure the oil in the ratio rite cup I add some gas to dilute it then dump in in the already full plastic gas can then shake well then shake before every use.
 
Maybe fuel anxiety is the driving force behind gas additive sales?
Add a dab of Marvel, a smattering of Sea-Foam, some fuel stabilizer, and a heavy handed dose of your favorite 2-cycle mix oil.
Just because it works, does it really mean that your favorite concoction of snake oil is really doing any good???
 
Maybe fuel anxiety is the driving force behind gas additive sales?
Add a dab of Marvel, a smattering of Sea-Foam, some fuel stabilizer, and a heavy handed dose of your favorite 2-cycle mix oil.
Just because it works, does it really mean that your favorite concoction of snake oil is really doing any good???

I largely agree. Many people seem to think engine didn't immediately explode = bestest oil/fuel/other mix on the planet, most super dee duper blend of 11 herbs and spices ever discovered, anything else will cause immediate engine failure.

Doesn't really matter, most of what people run will be just fine. Lots of right ways to skin this cat. Much more important is to TUNE for what you run.

When I mixed my own, it was 4oz oil to 1 gallon gas. Mix can is clearly marked, and it only ever contained mixed fuel. Add oil before adding fuel, even if all I planned to fuel from that can that day was a four stroke engine. Better to run a four stroke on two stroke mix, than accidentally run a two stroke on straight gas.

The mix oil I used also had no dye, or very little dye. More than once I wasn't 100% sure oil got added, and dosed the can again. I knew it was a double dose when the saw exhaust smelled much more strongly of two stroke mix. 100% fine with me, 16:1 is a whole lot better than 128:0.
 
I largely agree. Many people seem to think engine didn't immediately explode = bestest oil/fuel/other mix on the planet, most super dee duper blend of 11 herbs and spices ever discovered, anything else will cause immediate engine failure.

Doesn't really matter, most of what people run will be just fine. Lots of right ways to skin this cat. Much more important is to TUNE for what you run.

When I mixed my own, it was 4oz oil to 1 gallon gas. Mix can is clearly marked, and it only ever contained mixed fuel. Add oil before adding fuel, even if all I planned to fuel from that can that day was a four stroke engine. Better to run a four stroke on two stroke mix, than accidentally run a two stroke on straight gas.

The mix oil I used also had no dye, or very little dye. More than once I wasn't 100% sure oil got added, and dosed the can again. I knew it was a double dose when the saw exhaust smelled much more strongly of two stroke mix. 100% fine with me, 16:1 is a whole lot better than 128:0.
The company my buddy works for now runs all 2 stroke mix for all their small stuff bc too many times their 2 strokes have been straight gassed. only issue now is once every couple years a new guy will pour gas into a tractor or bobcat.
 
The company my buddy works for now runs all 2 stroke mix for all their small stuff bc too many times their 2 strokes have been straight gassed. only issue now is once every couple years a new guy will pour gas into a tractor or bobcat.
Are you saying they are running mixed gas in a conventional gasoline 4 stroke motor???????? If so they better watch out as according to some that will lead to HUGE problems...... Not to mention all the pollution that extra oil puts into the environment, wait a minute better use the right term atmosphere..... Now all joking aside doing that way not be the best choice for some of the newest equipment but if it works for them sobeit. I will say it would get very expensive for me to do that.
 
Are you saying they are running mixed gas in a conventional gasoline 4 stroke motor???????? If so they better watch out as according to some that will lead to HUGE problems...... Not to mention all the pollution that extra oil puts into the environment, wait a minute better use the right term atmosphere..... Now all joking aside doing that way not be the best choice for some of the newest equipment but if it works for them sobeit. I will say it would get very expensive for me to do that.
Cheaper then replacing saws and brush cutters and adds a litttle lube to the valves in old flathead 4 stroke stuff. Heck I had a bottle of that multi purpose 2 stroke oil that you see and I didn’t trust anymore(mainly bc it said for use in both air cooled equipment and water cooled outboard) I dumped the whole bottle into the tank of my truck(34 gal) that truck didn’t seem to mind right now it’s burning/blowing out oil anyway.
 
Maybe fuel anxiety is the driving force behind gas additive sales?
When leaded gas was discontinued many years ago there was a huge panic and rush to figure out an alternative. My father was adamant about making sure the 300 gallon gas tanks had plenty of FS lead substitute in them. Too bad he was not as adamant about Power Service in the diesel. Lots of "early cold" gelling. I guess lead substitute is still available but I have not bought it. I am at the point now where everything is diesel or newer than 1986 or whenever it changed
 
Are you saying they are running mixed gas in a conventional gasoline 4 stroke motor???????? If so they better watch out as according to some that will lead to HUGE problems...... Not to mention all the pollution that extra oil puts into the environment, wait a minute better use the right term atmosphere..... Now all joking aside doing that way not be the best choice for some of the newest equipment but if it works for them sobeit. I will say it would get very expensive for me to do that.
I run two cycle gas around 60-70 ish to one in all my small engines. Seems to help carb issues
 
Are you saying they are running mixed gas in a conventional gasoline 4 stroke motor???????? If so they better watch out as according to some that will lead to HUGE problems...... Not to mention all the pollution that extra oil puts into the environment, wait a minute better use the right term atmosphere..... Now all joking aside doing that way not be the best choice for some of the newest equipment but if it works for them sobeit. I will say it would get very expensive for me to do that.
I ran a large fishing lodge in Canada. We had one bulk tank for fuel on the property. It was mixed by me. Every engine on the place ran mixed fuel. Including several kawasaki mules a pair of Yamaha rhinos, two chevy trucks. We also had three oil injected to stroke outboards. They got mixed gas and oil through the injectors.
Never had any issues what so over.
 
When I measure the oil in the ratio rite cup I add some gas to dilute it then dump in in the already full plastic gas can then shake well then shake before every use.
That sounds like a reasonable approach. Nowadays my main task is stroking my chin and pointing my finger. I use more canned fuel than regular mix.

This may get me beaten up in a dark alley when I tell you Wolf but my behind the seat saw is now a Echo CS2511T. My son won't even climb with it. He and the MS200t share the same DNA.
 
That sounds like a reasonable approach. Nowadays my main task is stroking my chin and pointing my finger. I use more canned fuel than regular mix.

This may get me beaten up in a dark alley when I tell you Wolf but my behind the seat saw is now a Echo CS2511T. My son won't even climb with it. He and the MS200t share the same DNA.
Anytime you want to sell the 200T PM me.
 
I largely agree. Many people seem to think engine didn't immediately explode = bestest oil/fuel/other mix on the planet, most super dee duper blend of 11 herbs and spices ever discovered, anything else will cause immediate engine failure.

Doesn't really matter, most of what people run will be just fine. Lots of right ways to skin this cat. Much more important is to TUNE for what you run.

When I mixed my own, it was 4oz oil to 1 gallon gas. Mix can is clearly marked, and it only ever contained mixed fuel. Add oil before adding fuel, even if all I planned to fuel from that can that day was a four stroke engine. Better to run a four stroke on two stroke mix, than accidentally run a two stroke on straight gas.

The mix oil I used also had no dye, or very little dye. More than once I wasn't 100% sure oil got added, and dosed the can again. I knew it was a double dose when the saw exhaust smelled much more strongly of two stroke mix. 100% fine with me, 16:1 is a whole lot better than 128:0.
My old buddy used to run ATF because he was poor in his Hoodaka Combat Wombat dirt bike. Didnt blow up.
 
Cheaper then replacing saws and brush cutters and adds a litttle lube to the valves in old flathead 4 stroke stuff. Heck I had a bottle of that multi purpose 2 stroke oil that you see and I didn’t trust anymore(mainly bc it said for use in both air cooled equipment and water cooled outboard) I dumped the whole bottle into the tank of my truck(34 gal) that truck didn’t seem to mind right now it’s burning/blowing out oil anyway.
I did not say I disagreed. It works for them and that is what matters. I am a one man operation so blame is simple to assign when mistakes are made. Have I straight gassed a saw ? Yep, a 371. I know in actuality you are talking about a rather small amount of fuel consumed in the 4 strokes. Now I will give an example that is not practical but heck funny to think about. When spring/summer arrives i will be going through a lot more fuel. It would not be uncommon to burn 80-100 gallons of gas on some days. Now that is NOT in small equipment such as a L-Head which is what i think you are talking about. Once again I know you are not talking about using mixed gas in big engines but just think about this. Over the years I have had 3 chuck n duck chippers. One Asplundh 12" with a Ford 300 6cyl, one Asplundh 16" with a Ford 330 V8, and another 16" with a Ford 330 V8. Think about the fuel those girls would go through in a day. Those folks that used to use them could tell you. I cannot as I barely used them.
 
I ran a large fishing lodge in Canada. We had one bulk tank for full on the property. It was mixed by me. Every engine on the place ran mixed fuel. Including several kawasaki mules a pair of Yamaha rhinos, two chevy trucks. We also had three oil injected to stroke outboards. They got mixed gas and oil through the injectors.
Never had any issues what so over.
I used to have a Polaris Scrambler 250 3 wheeler that was oil injected. I never trusted oil injection so it always got mixed fuel. My two uncles spent their entire lives working at a marina on the Mississippi river. The oldest ran the gas dock/pumps. Obviously the vast majority of the fuel sold was straight gas but they had a mixed pump too. Personally I would question buying it but folks did. Anyone who ran in pool 16 of teh Mississippi knew my uncle Virgil. he was hard to miss at 4 by 6. Four feet tall and 6 ft DBH.

As for fuel you said you used it in a Mule. I have a Mule but she is very particular on what she likes and it requires a whole lot more oil..... My neighbor has one too but that is a whole different animal. That one wants NO OIL
 
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