Are you stashing a few saws while you can??

[Sylvatica]

Are you storing for the future any of the likely-to-be-discontinued saw models?

Such as the 372XP, 440, or bigger cc saws which probably won't be making the future EPA reg's, even if they lean them out so much more that they'll only run for a week.

The local saw shop has the new Huskies in, and I am getting the distinct feeling that I'd better get another 372 while I can.

 

[sedanman]

I have enoough to last 2 lifetimes. But a few more might not be a bad idea either!

 

[rahtreelimbs]

I have enoough to last 2 lifetimes. But a few more might not be a bad idea either!

 

[canguy21]

I'm going to stock up on 55R's. The new 455 is just a juiced up 345. My 345 is my primary saw right now but it won't hold a candle to ol' reliable

 

[Al Smith]

I have a shed full,myself.Mostly big Macs,but pale,in comparison,to a certain AS member,who has the marked cournered on the west coast.

 

[Sylvatica]

My dealer told me that certain saws may be "inactive" soon, which is why he bought a load of remaining 372s.

He said that for now, the 346XP is still "active", which is good to hear, because if that saw threatens to go extinct, I am going to buy at least 4 more.

I like mature technologies for their attributes of proven reliability and serviceability. And I like new technology too, which is how all mature technologies come to be, but only after they reach the mature stage. Continuous improvement is a great thing for any consumer, but the current parameters appear to be resulting in thermally-stressed, short-lived, overweight engines limited to producing impractically low emmissions.

 

[bwalker]

I got a 372 in moth balls as we speak.

 

[xander9727]

I may do that....haven't given it much thought.

 

[ehp]

you could always find saws in Canada, up here they know nothing about new saws coming here , in either husky or stihl

 

[tony marks]

its a pretty good bet quality saws are gonna be grandfathered in..mite be a good investment..but every things involving spending money on future value is a bet..
still its a pretty good one.. jmo

 

[NevadaWalrus]

I may be wrong but a couple of things to consider.

1, law of averages, aren't manufacturers of saws and other L&G equipment like autos where some higher polution models can be kept as long as their over all sales averages under specs?

2, I remember back in the 70's that car engines with smaller cid had a harder time meeting emission regs then the big engines. The big engines were replaced more for meeting fuel economy figures then emissions. Since larger saws have no similar mpg or gph type law averages to meet, the larger saws probably will always be aorund.

 

[bwalker]

"remember back in the 70's that car engines with smaller cid had a harder time meeting emission regs then the big engines."
Thats because they had less stringent emmisions standards to meet. Why do you think the Husky Cali special exists?

 

[Mange]

Was at the husky dealer today and asked when the new saw come, we had taked about this befor and I mensioned that they where availeble in US.
He has heard nothing, about any new models.
Funny..

 

[chainsawworld]

i had 12 372xp's. now i'm down to 5. i think that was a bad decision on my part. luckily i still have around 200 assorted saws hanging around or on display. marty

 

[tony marks]

just an opinion.. if i was gonna put saws up as investment or because i believed
the quality an performance of todays saws is just not gonna be there in the future..
id pick several quality saws of the same brand an stay with that line.. then possibly look at pts saws with parts that would work in these saws.. these companies will probably continue to make available the rebuild pts.. but one never knows what the future brings..

 

[xander9727]

Even if the power and reliability go down it is only for a short period of time. In the 70s we saw the end of the muscle cars. Everyone in the 80s figured they'd never see cars as fast again. Today there are a multitude of cars that will out accelerate, handle, brake and exceed the top speed of any car previously built. Engineers through technology will find ways to increase performance and meet the emission standards.

 

[glens]

Yeah.  How about that new 550 horse Ford GT?  I think it was something like 0-100-0 in 6 seconds and change...

 

[tony marks]

xander i hope u rite .. but seems to me the save the world bunch has set its sites on 2 cycle motors..of course as long as the modify specialist are around they probably
can take these canned saws an remake them into something even faster..jmo

 

[Sylvatica]

If the future of small internal cumbustion engines is in the 4 cycle design, due to the reality of emission controls (and/or a change in fuel technology for existing 2 cycles) then the market will demand the same or better level of performance. And the suppliers will deliver - as long as the Ben & Jerry's crowd can be fended off in their jihad to eliminate the small internal combustion engine entirely. But there will still be an awkward transition period of lead sled saws, I think.

The challenge in going 4 cycle, obviously, is to replace the power characteristic inherent to the 2 cycle, which is the beauty of a power stroke for every single rotation. No wasted spinning around going on there.

The design intermingles and exhausts burned, partially burned, and unburned HC to and extent deemed unsatisfactory by those who don't understand the trade-off involved in accomplishing a 13.5 lb handheld device capable of reliably producing 5.4 hp and high operating speeds. The simplicity of piston-ported scavenging, rather than complicated valves, is a major attribute of the 2 cycle. Small, powerful, reliable, few moving parts. Stinky, but I'll miss them. (But I've probably got enough to get me through, too.)

 

[bwalker]

Sylvatica, Technology exists to make two cycles every bit as clean and cleaner than four cycles. Two cycles are not going any where.