Bill G
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If they do not have state inspections then are you telling me fuel stations are unregulated in those states? What states are they? What does running taxed diesel for a few tanks have to do with the nozzle size
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Bill G
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Helps thin it out when it is gelling
Military lubricants typicaly have the manufacturer stamped on the container.
MI and MT.
Running regular for a few tanks guarantees it wouldn't be caught during an inspection.
The other thing is diesel fuel tanks are set up to use the automotive diesel nozzles or the larger commercial nozzles. At least the ones I previously owned were.
The station doesn't gave a **** what people do with the fuel they sell either and why would they.
Ethanol (e85) is higher octane than premium. Especially in a boosted car, but even in NA we can get much more HP with ethanol
If they ran e85 the HP gain is there. Later timing, More spark, more compression. When you get into the lesser ethanol i see no advantage. And it's terrible in a carburetor.
My state has inspections (NC). We do them. The neighboring state has none (TN). Our pumps are the same. Some big stations have truck pumps which have 5x the flow rate hence a bigger nozzle. But the normal ones (around 7gpm usually) both have the small nozzle.
We do not care what fuel you run. We do a safety inspection. In some regions its also an emissions inspection. Even there is total ppm of certain things that's checked with a tool. We are all trained on it. Off or on road is not in that inspection. Whether you pay tax on your fuel is none of our buisness as a shop. If it's safe to be on the road is what we are to enforce.
I've never seen or heard of a 3/4 or 1 ton truck being checked. Ever. They do check our big trucks but rarely.
If you buy a duramax or powerstroke that has been run offroad or construction you don't have to change the entire fuel system because of the dye. And as others have stated there are times when the state tells you that you can run non-taxable fuel anyway (fuel shortages, covid etc)
Oddly in my state ive seen offroad cost more than taxed. It's foolish but ive seen it.
Your experience is "NOW",, the cheaper "KERO than diesel" was a long time (~10 years) ago.
And at the time, KERO was half the price of diesel.
At one time, diesel was cheaper than 87 octane gasoline,, that has changed, also, as everyone has bought diesel vehicles.
Diesel used to RULE in Europe, they thought Americans were crazy for using gasoline,,
NOW, Europe is buying mostly gasoline cars, because, now gas is cheaper than diesel,, over there,,
Taxes and sulfur removal have made diesel more expensive.
I think the reason Europe is switching to gasoline is economics . All the crap they put on diesel engines to meet emissions is super expensive to repair and gas engines go hundreds of thousands of miles with no problems plus they are quieter start better etc.
It was different in the old days were there was just a fuel pump and injectors. on a diesel just simple and reliable with proper maintanance.
Kash
It was different in the old days were there was just a fuel pump and injectors. on a diesel just simple and reliable with proper maintanance.
Kash
Bill G
ArboristSite King
I will ask again what does running taxed diesel for a few tanks have to do with the nozzle size? I asked that and you posted what I quoted above which does not answer the question.
You did answer which states do not inspect fuel stations which I appreciate. I will trust that is true but verify later as it sounds a bit odd. Do they not inspect scales either? Sounds like it would be easy for a unscrupulous fuel station owner or any business selling a product by volume, weight, etc to cheat. Heck if there are no inspections of fuel stations then why should anyone be wasting money and time searching out non-ethanol/premium fuel in those states. If there are no inspections then there is no one to stop the owner from putting ethanol fuel in the premium tank or from blending it in. Heck they could toss water in it, "adjust" the fuel meters like a casino slot machine, etc. Things sure must be different there. I love learning something new everyday.
I don't know if the inspect fuel stations or not and don't care. People run untaxed fuel all the time in their road vehicles and its not a secret. In fact Montana just launched a advertisement saying given high fuel prices they were going to start enforcing the law...ya right.I will ask again what does running taxed diesel for a few tanks have to do with the nozzle size? I asked that and you posted what I quoted above which does not answer the question.
You did answer which states do not inspect fuel stations which I appreciate. I will trust that is true but verify later as it sounds a bit odd. Do they not inspect scales either? Sounds like it would be easy for a unscrupulous fuel station owner or any business selling a product by volume, weight, etc to cheat. Heck if there are no inspections of fuel stations then why should anyone be wasting money and time searching out non-ethanol/premium fuel in those states. If there are no inspections then there is no one to stop the owner from putting ethanol fuel in the premium tank or from blending it in. Heck they could toss water in it, "adjust" the fuel meters like a casino slot machine, etc. Things sure must be different there. I love learning something new everyday.
The nozzle thing came from a guy that suggested off road and on road diesel nozzles are different. They are not.
And I am not sure why you think it's the gas stations responsibility to ensure you use the right fuel. It's not.
Smitty Smithsonite
ArboristSite Operative
Seems every state in the union has ethanol free at the pump, except this craphole state (MA).
Smitty Smithsonite
ArboristSite Operative
There is ZERO water in my fuel tank. I know, because I service it. If there were, there would be traces of it in the bottom of the filter. There isn't even a pinhead drop of it in there. 100% #2 heating oil. It's the damned biofuel. Never had this problem in 20 years of being in this house, and my parents never had that problem in 50+ years of being in the same house with the same heating system until the state started mandating oil companies mix in a certain percentage of biofuel with all #2 sold here. They started having problems, too, but a new boiler fixed that for them. Seems the biofuel only runs trouble free in newer equipment from what I'm seeing. My boiler is 26 years old.
I'm going to play around with different electrodes, electrode gaps and distances from the head, and coils to see if I can get a combo that'll work. Par for the course - everything in this state drains your friggin wallet.
Over here all bulk fuel contains water.
I'd drain at least a quart a year, the tank was above ground and condensation was one concern.
No boiler experience here. My misery was maintaining single line forced air oil furnace, (2).
Troubles were water related except one time,
when trouble like you mentioned.
The fiber liner burn chamber was filling up with soot.
The air/fuel mix had been compensated over the years
to maintain the correct burn.
To the point it fouled out constantly.
Tore it down and cleaned out half bucket of crud, new nozzle, re-adjust and it ran like a charm.
I had to learn this system as some hvac guys won't touch oil and others would just retune air/fuel and install new nozzle and charge a stiff rate. Oh and more than one "repairman" installed wring nozzle, compounding problems.
Good luck with it, I do not miss them.
I do still have the newer low milage furnace.
An easy sell if I chose to, due to the PIA they become.
I'd drain at least a quart a year, the tank was above ground and condensation was one concern.
No boiler experience here. My misery was maintaining single line forced air oil furnace, (2).
Troubles were water related except one time,
when trouble like you mentioned.
The fiber liner burn chamber was filling up with soot.
The air/fuel mix had been compensated over the years
to maintain the correct burn.
To the point it fouled out constantly.
Tore it down and cleaned out half bucket of crud, new nozzle, re-adjust and it ran like a charm.
I had to learn this system as some hvac guys won't touch oil and others would just retune air/fuel and install new nozzle and charge a stiff rate. Oh and more than one "repairman" installed wring nozzle, compounding problems.
Good luck with it, I do not miss them.
I do still have the newer low milage furnace.
An easy sell if I chose to, due to the PIA they become.
Forced air, or boiler,, oil heat is oil heat,, the burners should be working in a similar manner.
If the old boiler has problems, install a new burner, that is not uncommon.
Over a 40 year period, I installed 3 new burners for my sister in her Virginia home,
They had an oil heated boiler for heat. The boiler itself was fine, the burner simply died, and was an easy replace.
Then they switched to a propane heated boiler, so, they never ran into bio-mixed heating oil.
The new boiler was 1/10 the size of the old boiler,, the old boiler from 1948 was as big as a chicken coop!!
Install a new burner, if new burner equipment survives bio-fuel oil better.
If the old boiler has problems, install a new burner, that is not uncommon.
Over a 40 year period, I installed 3 new burners for my sister in her Virginia home,
They had an oil heated boiler for heat. The boiler itself was fine, the burner simply died, and was an easy replace.
Then they switched to a propane heated boiler, so, they never ran into bio-mixed heating oil.
The new boiler was 1/10 the size of the old boiler,, the old boiler from 1948 was as big as a chicken coop!!
Install a new burner, if new burner equipment survives bio-fuel oil better.
Cricket
ArboristSite Operative
I ran a kerosene heater for a couple of bad cold weeks this winter, in SW Michigan. Had my choice of several places within 15 miles to pump it.
Maybe this will help: pure-gas.org
| City | Brand | Octane | Name | Phone | Street Address | Last Updated | ||||
| Auburn | VP RACING | 94 96 110 | Motorsports International | 508-832-9494 | 444 Washington St | 2021-11-16 | details | |||
| Baldwinville | SUNOCO | 98 100 110 | Akin Automotive | 978-939-2300 | 522 Baldwinville Rd | 2020-08-01 | details | |||
| Belmont | VP RACING | 94 | Turf Equipment Co | 617-484-1442 | 280 Blanchard Rd | 2021-11-06 | details | |||
| Bourne | UNBRANDED | 94 95 | The Boat Guy | 508-563-1961 | 530 Macarthur Blvd. | 2020-04-24 | details | |||
| Brookfield | VP RACING | 94 110 112 | A-1 Parts | 508-867-4120 | 26 W Main St | 2020-07-20 | details | |||
| Cataumet | VP RACING | 93 100 110 | Loud Fuel Co | 508-563-3834 | 1412 Hwy 28a | 2016-11-04 | details | |||
| Charlton | UNBRANDED | 94 | City Power | 508-248-7464 | 73 Us Rt 20 | 2020-08-05 | details | |||
| Cherry Valley | VP RACING | 94 96 101 | Hank's Marine | 508-892-4788 | 111 Main St | 2013-11-12 | details | |||
| East Dennis | UNBRANDED | | Bayside Equipment | 508-385-7494 | 1408 Rte 6a | 2016-11-29 | details | |||
| East Falmouth | UNBRANDED | 94 98 | Falmouth Airpark | 508-548-9617 | 67 Airpark Dr | 2020-10-21 | details | |||
| East Longmeadow | VP RACING | 93 | Acres Power Equipment | 413-525-3752 | 104 Shaker Rd | 2021-11-27 | details | |||
| Hyannis | UNBRANDED | 100 | Barnstable Muni Airport | 508-771-2638 | 630 Barnstable Rd | 2019-10-27 | details | |||
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Note that the VP Racing is usually canned fuel.
Bill G
ArboristSite King
The non-ethanol is pretty widespread here and so is the ethanol. What i mean is we can get a very wide assortment. from no -ethanol to 10%, 15%, 20% and 85% ethanol. As I mentioned also kerosene and race fuel at the pump but that is very limited, The diesel is available in all different flavors also. What we do not have is home heating oil but apparently that is the same as diesel? I do not know as I have zero experience with it.Seems every state in the union has ethanol free at the pump, except this craphole state (MA).
You know it seems like many folks (myself included) complain about the state they live in They talk about the other states that are better (myself included). That is one of the many great and not so great things about living in a country of 50 states with each having states rights that are mostly independent of the federal government. Each state is free to screw things up in the way they see unfit to do.
You talk about Massachusetts being a crap hole. Well as many great folks of Illinois and Iowa will tell you the grass is not always greener in the Midwest. Now I want to be crystal clear that I do not know your transportation laws in MA but I do know a extremely honest man out there is is well versed in them daily. I completely trust what he tells me and it appears you folks have some much more liberal laws on the weight allowed to be hauled. Here it is 80,000lbs for a standard load without an overweight. We also how county road embargos that run from March to June that prevent us from hauling basically anything bigger than a pickup on the county paved roads. Now like many laws there are laws and then there are laws that are enforced . With the county road restriction it is virtually impossible to haul grain in the spring. I am not sure I have heard of anyone being ticketed for hauling March to June though and I am betting most officers (except DOT) even understand the law.
OK,
Good point on the VP racing, but I only posted about 1/3 of the listed stations in MA. The Website (Arboristsite) kept saying I was using over 10,000 characters, so I had to keep deleting until it would fit
AND, that is a LOT of non-ethanol gasoline,, considering that Massachusetts has about as much area as a good sized airport,, ,LOL!!
Top to bottom that state is only about 50 miles tall,,
Roanoke to Lynchburg is about the same distance,, and , other than little Bedford, there is nothing in between those two cities..
I think MA has PLENTY of non-ethanol available,,
