Lots of culls around here..
661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?
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Redbull, I appreciate what your trying to accomplish but you have a cluster fuq of variables that makes your data completely useless.
Mastermind
Work Saw Specialist
Have fun dude.
I never said you had an agenda.
Do whatever floats your boat.
Happy Easter.
KG441c
Keith
Ive talked with belray techs, motul techs, and maxima techs when I studied up on oils and not one tech recommended in our ported saws 700t over 800t or mc1 over h1r or 927 over k2?
I've actually never experienced the "more oil =more power" thing. Until coming here, and since reading several articles about it. When i was a kid, I raced the ol' 500 Quadzilla, an 86 Honda 250r, and a couple bikes. They all recommended 20:1 at the time, but would barely run because of fouling plugs. I don't remember which oil we used, but we switched to 40 or 50:1 and everything woke up. Seat of the pants testing says less oil = more power. Again, not arguing with Jennings' findings, just my .02.
Fouling isn't caused by too much oil but rather poor tuning. I have motors that run at 20:1 and the silencers are bone dry. I have seen shifter karts run at 16: very cleanly.
Wood composition, timer human operator and that's just for starters..
You guys make me do things i wouldnt normally do..
So after our removals on friday i decided after reading this to go take a look at my 241 since it saw 6 tanks of fuel and 2 chain swaps on friday alone.
the top of my piston is brown..i wanna know how the hell guys on here have a shiny new lookin piston after the supposed run time they say their saws have.
is it the fuel i use ?
So after our removals on friday i decided after reading this to go take a look at my 241 since it saw 6 tanks of fuel and 2 chain swaps on friday alone.
the top of my piston is brown..i wanna know how the hell guys on here have a shiny new lookin piston after the supposed run time they say their saws have.
is it the fuel i use ?
Mastermind
Work Saw Specialist
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the the M-Tronic system is the reason the results were as they were.
Not saying you did anything "wrong".......but over time the system would likely compensate and the differences would not be so great.
I don't use 32:1 for performance.......I never have given that any thought. I use 32:1 for longevity. Pro saws ain't cheap, and the extra oil is a good idea.
Mastermind
Work Saw Specialist
I never look at my piston.
You figure that the techs in question have any knowledge of how a saw is ran?
Probably why I've never burned up a saw or bike. I've always stuck between 32 and 42:1 and I probably error on the rich side when tuning. Plugs are cheap
Pistons should look brown with some washed bare metal were the transfer ports discharge.
If you are fouling you are more than a little rich. The oils back then were not as good either, but most of the problem was jetting related. I always run a projected tip plug if possible jet the motor properly. I haven't fouled a plug in decades.
Then how the hell do some of these guys have a piston crown that is so clean it looks like its never been ran ?
Overly rich, full of crap or minimally ran?
Maybe their carb cleaner works better than their oil?
redbull660
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did you even watch the video? you can do the times your self! yes I umm watched the videos 3 x each and screwed up the times by 7 seconds. LOL!
the wood! LOL then there is no point to this at all. That is why I did 1 cut each and also used two logs. So both logs showed the same results, yet it's not reliable. HAHAHHAAHHAHAHHAHA If the wood changed that much, we wouldn't even have cutting contests at all.
Makes me wonder..
Dude did you seriously think you werent gonna get a ton of flack after you did these tests..this is AS
