Makita taking over Dolmar brand in the USA

[bwalker]

I really like hearing first hand experiences like this.
It is funny how by actually using a saw gives a different view then those that just look up specs.
When people go on about weight do they buy the lightest boots, clothes, helmet, chaps, tools belt, because clothes weigh a lot and you better only carry fiberglass handled tools no hickory handles.

Now back on topic hopefully by coming under one name it may open up easier and more budget friendly marketing.

I didn't find the 7900 all that durable when subjected to commercial use.and I am not talking about self inflicted damage.
Really no one really knows the long term durability of Dolmars because they are not used by pros by and large.

 

[bwalker]

Perhaps for their 2-strokes, but their 4-strokes are CARB compliant. If their saws aren't, why aren't they spending money for R&D. All the major players either do strato charge or M-Tronic/AutoTune. Adapt or die.

On second thought, their equipment complies with CARB.

Lack of cash for R&D... Stihl can't even do strato all that well because Husky bought Redmax/Zenoah and their plethora of strato related patents.

 

[fordf150]

I didn't find the 7900 all that durable when subjected to commercial use.and I am not talking about self inflicted damage.
Really no one really knows the long term durability of Dolmars because they are not used by pros by and large.

I have 2 tree services switched to dolmar and 2 logging outfits. Only time those saws have been back is when they crunched them. Some of those saws have been in the field 3 years and still running just fine. One 7910 even wears a 36" bar.

166 iirc posted a video of a new 6100 nipping at the heals of a broken in 562.

 

[SawTroll]

Lack of cash for R&D... Stihl can't even do strato all that well because Husky bought Redmax/Zenoah and their plethora of strato related patents.

As far as I know, Stihl pays Husky to use at least parts of the patents, while Dolmar try to "design around" them, with the 6100. Also, the M-tronic is based on the early Husky AT.

It was the EU that forced Husky to sell rights to Stihl, to avoid a "monopoly" situation in the market.

This is old news, but you may have missed it, since you haven't always been active here?

 

[CoreyB]

Here is a video I just stumbledon that is on topic.

 

[Justsaws]

Yikes! Sure hope this "plan" works out better than the last "plan". Online vendors seem to have a lot of inventory.

Also hope that they get some product out on the floor, soon.

 

[7sleeper]

I didn't find the 7900 all that durable when subjected to commercial use.and I am not talking about self inflicted damage.
Really no one really knows the long term durability of Dolmars because they are not used by pros by and large.

There are a few pro's in a german forum that run Dolmar's without any problems.

As far as I know, Stihl pays Husky to use at least parts of the patents as far as the information I have read is that Stihl bought patent rights from Zenoah, before Zenoah was bought by Husqvarna. , while Dolmar try to "design around" them, with the 6100. Also, the M-tronic is based on the early Husky AT. Never seen any facts to that.

It was the EU that forced Husky to sell rights to Stihl, to avoid a "monopoly" situation in the market. Same again, never seen any facts on that, but then again I am not always active here.

This is old news, but you may have missed it, since you haven't always been active here?

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[SawTroll]

There are a few pro's in a german forum that run Dolmar's without any problems.

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Well, the 7900 once was banned from pro use in Germany (around 2005), because of excessive vibes - just BS of course, that had to do with how the vibes were/are measured. The published vibe numbers only tell part of the story, and little about how well the vibes are dampened.

The big issue outside their (very limited) core areas is lack of service and part supply + the lack of suitable models, apart from the (now discontinued) 7900.

 

[bwalker]

As far as I know, Stihl pays Husky to use at least parts of the patents, while Dolmar try to "design around" them, with the 6100. Also, the M-tronic is based on the early Husky AT.

It was the EU that forced Husky to sell rights to Stihl, to avoid a "monopoly" situation in the market.

This is old news, but you may have missed it, since you haven't always been active here?

I was aware. Husky is really years ahead of Stihl tech wise.

 

[KenJax Tree]

I was aware. Husky is really years ahead of Stihl tech wise.

And years behind in filtration

 

[bwalker]

And years behind in filtration

That's debatable.

 

[Trx250r180]

I was told by a logger once that a husky will get you by till you have enough money to get a Stihl.

 

[7sleeper]

That's debatable.

What is debatable that the air filtration of the dolmar 6100 is clearly superior to anything husqvarna has on the market at the moment? There are enough threads here that clearly demonstrate that.

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[KenJax Tree]

What is debatable that the air filtration of the dolmar 6100 is clearly superior to anything husqvarna has on the market at the moment? There are enough threads here that clearly demonstrate that.

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Ditto for the HD2. I run Husky's except for my 421 and top handles and they're filtration is way behind.

 

[nnero]

The worst part is this thread was meant for people that actually own the products in question. I did a lot reaearch before i invested my hard earned money into Dolmar. And not just by regurgitating specs I read on the internet. I have nothing against stihl Husqvarna echo Jonesered or any other saw and would happily own any of them. The husky circlejerk is unbelievable at times on this site. Especially from from those who have never seen let alone run the saws they are bashing. This is the last time I will respond to this thread, I've had enough. Thanks to those who actually have been helpful and presented useful information.

 

[opinion]

The worst part is this thread was meant for people that actually own the products in question. I did a lot reaearch before i invested my hard earned money into Dolmar. And not just by regurgitating specs I read on the internet. I have nothing against stihl Husqvarna echo Jonesered or any other saw and would happily own any of them. The husky circlejerk is unbelievable at times on this site. Especially from from those who have never seen let alone run the saws they are bashing. This is the last time I will respond to this thread, I've had enough. Thanks to those who actually have been helpful and presented useful information.

Why get up in arms about it? It's not a big deal. Unless we own these companies, who cares, really. Dealers that have an interest in the prosperity of their line will continue to strive regardless of what they carry because its the product knowledge and repair competence of the dealer that really matters, anyway.

 

[SawTroll]

And years behind in filtration

Stihl have basically copied their current AV and air filtration from Husky - but in some cases they went further than Husky with the air filters. If that is an asset or not depends on your cutting conditions, but I believe the answer mostly is not.

Remember that there is a balance between keeping dust out, and getting enough air in.

 

[SawTroll]

6100 fuel consumption 395 g/kWh @ peak kW, 395 g/kWh@ peak Nm; 3.4 kW; 6.0 kg
560..............................410...................................458....................3.5.......5.6
562...............................410....................................420....................3.5.......5.8
362...............................471....................................481.....................3.5........6.0
362cm (elec carb)........460....................................513.....................3.5........6.0

Corrected the 562 numbers, and added the 560 ones.

The saber vs. brick factor and the effects of the Revboost does of course not show in those numbers.

 

[CoreyB]

Corrected the 562 numbers, and added the 560 ones.

The saber vs. brick factor and the effects of the Revboost does of course not show in those numbers.

And I think it is still proving that the 6100 has better fuel milage than all the rest. See how much better the 6100 is on fuel then those wistful environmental hating huskies. Lol
Huskies just waist so much fuel who would want to carry all that extra weight of fuel needed.
Lol
Poke poke

 

[bwalker]

What is debatable that the air filtration of the dolmar 6100 is clearly superior to anything husqvarna has on the market at the moment? There are enough threads here that clearly demonstrate that.

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We were not talking about the 6100...
Never seen one and probaly never will..