Dolmar 421, Stihl 250/251, 241 or 261

[KG441c]

I doubt, or rather do not intend to cut much stuff larger than 12 inches

If anything larger than 12 inches.

My thoughts were to use the smaller Saw to do the limbing and the bigger saw to do the felling and .... bucking? (Bucking being cutting up the trunk, right?)

The 241c is the lightest of the bunch. An 18" picco stihl bar with ps chain and a 7 tooth rim sprocket kit makes an awesome limbing saw and will easily cut 12"

 

[Michaelmj11]

The 241c is the lightest of the bunch. An 18" picco stihl bar with ps chain and a 7 tooth rim sprocket kit makes an awesome limbing saw and will easily cut 12"

That WAS a quite demonstrative video. Now when talking about weights, doesn't Stihl present their weights a Just the weight of the powerhead, where Dolmar is giving Net Weight, i.e. Powerhead + B&C + oil and fuel?

 

[Michaelmj11]

The 241c is the lightest of the bunch. An 18" picco stihl bar with ps chain and a 7 tooth rim sprocket kit makes an awesome limbing saw and will easily cut 12"

Oh yah almost forgot, is your 241 modded/ported/Frankensteined?

 

[KG441c]

The 421 is heavier than the 241. The 241 with the 18" or 16" bar flicks around like a feather and is balanced

 

[KG441c]

Oh yah almost forgot, is your 241 modded/ported/Frankensteined?

Yes my 241 is ported but in stock form they will suprise u with the torque for a 42cc saw

 

[KG441c]

If u r gonna cut over 14 to 16" wood get the 261c

 

[Michaelmj11]

If u r gonna cut over 14 to 16" wood get the 261c

I was sort of thinking of simply using the 661 for that stuff, but am always open to better techniques or more intelligent methods

 

[KG441c]

I was sort of thinking of simply using the 661 for that stuff, but am always open to better techniques or more intelligent methods

Id have to have a smaller saw. I have them from 42cc to 90cc and find myself picking up the 241 more

 

[Michaelmj11]

Id have to have a smaller saw. I have them from 42cc to 90cc and find myself picking up the 241 more

Ok so it sounds like over all the Dolmar is going to be the lightest weight with all most identical power output to the 241, the 261 comes from the factory able (rated) to handle a 20 inch bar.

Would the Dolmar be able to accept Stihl Bars and Chains, or is there a Dolmar sprocket that would allow the Dolmar tO use Stihl B&C's?

 

[KG441c]

The Dolmar 421 is 10.8lbs and the Stihl 241c is 9.9lbs

 

[Michaelmj11]

The Dolmar 421 is 10.8lbs and the Stihl 241c is 9.9lbs

But isn't the Stihl weight Just the dry powerhead weight, and the Dolmar "Net weight" so B&C and Oil&Fuel?

 

[KenJax Tree]

Dollar for dollar i'll take the 421.

 

[KG441c]

But isn't the Stihl weight Just the dry powerhead weight, and the Dolmar "Net weight" so B&C and Oil&Fuel?

No both r pho weights

 

[windthrown]

Soooo, is there etiquette (look at me talking about etiquette to guys who probably go "Hey man you gona finish that beer or just leave it for the bears? Cause I'd finish it off for you").

Is there a way to approach a small engine shop, in such a way that it is MORE likely they let me work/learn mechanics from them?

They have bears in Mississippi? Here the saying goes: *Saw repair, $50 an hour. If you help, $100 an hour.* Generally they go into a pile of saws to work on and some tech comes along to work on it at some point. Unless its a one-man shop. If you know the guys in the back, or bring beer (or a bear) along, that may help. Some shops here will not let you in back, no matter what, for insurance (or policy) reasons. Usually a quick re-tune of the carb is done here under warranty on the front counter, but that will not teach you much. With one Mtronic saw already, you may as well get another Mtronic saw and not bother with carb tuning. No reason to.

 

[Michaelmj11]

Dollar for dollar i'll take the 421.

Did you see:

You can get a 261 from Canada now for around $500, shipped. They are on sale up there now and the CDN dollar is in the tank. I can point you toward someone to buy and send you one. The 261 is M-tronic as well. The new 261 has a completely new engine design (they are in production now).

Another thing to consider is that the 241 has a small mount bar, and the 661 bars and loops will not fit them. I flipped all my 026 and 260 saws to 3/8 standard and run the same B&C as my larger Stihls.

 

[KG441c]

If the 661 weight doesnt bother u get a husky 562xp with a 20" bar and id bet u wont pick the 661 up unless u cut bigwood

 

[Michaelmj11]

They have bears in Mississippi? Here the saying goes: *Saw repair, $50 an hour. If you help, $100 an hour.* Generally they go into a pile of saws to work on and some tech comes along to work on it at some point. Unless its a one-man shop. If you know the guys in the back, or bring beer (or a bear) along, that may help. Some shops here will not let you in back, no matter what, for insurance (or policy) reasons. Usually a quick re-tune of the carb is done here under warranty on the front counter, but that will not teach you much. With one Mtronic saw already, you may as well get another Mtronic saw and not bother with carb tuning. No reason to.

The Teddy Bear story originated in Mississippi, and we do still have 3-4 wild bears

 

[Michaelmj11]

If the 661 weight doesnt bother u get a husky 562xp with a 20" bar and id bet u wont pick the 661 up unless u cut bigwood

No husky dealer.

 

[KG441c]

The dolmar 421 is one of the heavier 42cc saws on the market and also if u leave the cat system in the muffler it runs quite hot

 

[Michaelmj11]

The dolmar 421 is one of the heavier 42cc saws on the market and also if u leave the cat system in the muffler it runs quite hot

And there is really only about a 1 pound difference in the 241 amd 261?