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"full retail prices"?

I like the fact that husky is making an effort to support it's local dealers. But many of their gains will be offset by not yanking them from lowe's or sears. Also, they shouldn't force their dealers into "buying the full line". That's what forced 2 local dealers to drop husky. I was recently in the market for another saw and the local dealer had a 346xp $484. Three different local dealers sell the Stihl MS260 for $429 with an extra chain. I wonder if Husky dealers seek a higher profit margin or there stuff is more expensive to make.
 
I like the fact that husky is making an effort to support it's local dealers. But many of their gains will be offset by not yanking them from lowe's or sears. Also, they shouldn't force their dealers into "buying the full line". That's what forced 2 local dealers to drop husky. I was recently in the market for another saw and the local dealer had a 346xp $484. Three different local dealers sell the Stihl MS260 for $429 with an extra chain. I wonder if Husky dealers seek a higher profit margin or there stuff is more expensive to make.

260 doesnt even come close to 346xp in perfomance and quality...
 
Yah know...

When I first came here I had the thought of asking for a dealer only room to hash out this kind of stuff and offer dialog and support between dealers. I did not have this thought with the intent of price fixing in anyway but as a service to the hard working dealers that go through hell and finally give up.

If Husqvarna had any true grasp of their pro market, I would think that they would have people come to sites such as this and learn.

I am glad that there is a free space for people to talk about the business that so many of us for some irrational reason love

Then again Attitude is too often the downfall of a great brand name
 
There’s a whole lotta speculation going on in this thread, but to get a better insight into this new Husky move, some statistics could clarify. Those not being available, I just like to speculate like the rest of you folks and throw in some comments.

While Husqvarna being no longer under control of Elux, they may have their hands finally free to take their faith into their own hands. From their side, I think it is a wise decision to take the dealers route, especially for their Husqvarna line of products, which have the full range for pro and consumer use. I am not sure at this point if Mc Cullogh, Partner and Jonsered, etc. remain under Elux weather Husky.

Personally, I believe a chainsaw is not fit for sale by the internet. Statistics would help but I estimate the big volumes (unit wise) to be in the consumer product line (80 %) for homeowners and farmers, 18 % in the pro-market and 2 % in the chainsaw noobs market (Ben, AS members, heck why not me, etc ).

Both homeowners and pro’s need a dealer to get their saws running decently and service it. Internet could help sell a few % more, but the risk of claims is high and hence still calls the need for a dealer. Even with lurking around here for 2 years and 25 old saws in the shed, I still would hesitate big-time to buy a new saw over the net for a few dollars less (guarantee issues).

That accepted, I can understand that Husky wants to focus on dealers in the future (that's were the sales are).

As to the dealer reputation, I can only judge for my area, and calling them all crooks would be unfair. As for as competence in concerned, there is clearly room for improvement, but their knowledge will be far enough to serve 80% of the consumer products which they carry only anyway. One Husky dealer lately needed approx.1 hour to identify the carb kit reference number for a standard Walbro carb …

22 % gross margin is nothing to go bragging about. It is quite low compared to other industries, and it requires a lot of sales to make a decent living imo. That leaves little room for giving pure margins away for Mr Special customer, and should only be justified in special cases (loyal customers, weaker times, etc;)

Being a dealer, I would not be afraid of internet sales too much, provided I can charge decently for warranty or service work I need to perform on that equipment if required. Otherwise, I would tell the manufacturer to get stuffed. He can’t get it all.

The problem I have seen with dealers is that they will try to take advantage of you when buying spare parts. For ex. I needed a new coil recently for my 028 super. One dealer asked 92 €, another one 70 € and finally bought it over the net at 36 €, delivered to my door. I belong to the 2 % customer segment, so Stihl won’t care less probably, but it left me with a bad dealer taste.

So, I can understand Ben’s position, as well as the dealer's position you defended here in this thread.

Looking at it from the customer’s side, it works well for me if the dealer will give me good service and not try to rip me off when I need him most. I will use the net only if I have to.
 
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I I'm not going to do that every time I need a consumable or frequently broken part.

Well, I suppose this IS a Husqvarna thread, huh? j/k...
Seriously...
I maintain that there is a perception about big box stores and internet sales that keeps the husky brand from receiving the attention, trust, and "professional grade" distinction it well deserves. You don't go to a Pro Bass Shop to buy a Zebco, do ya?

Same goes - when I want a higher-end reel, I'll go to a pro shop and see what they have. When I wanted a step-above-Poulan saw, I went to a pro saw shop. They sold Stihl. Sure, Wal-Mart may carry higher-end reels, and Lowes also sells Husky saws, but one must always remember - "perception is reality". It's STILL a Wal-Mart reel or a Lowes saw.

I agree with Husqvarna's decision - I think that by (artificially) creating exclusivity it will only enhance their "street cred" and make the brand more desireable ("Look, we're JUST LIKE STIHL!!!!") to the masses.

Like was said earlier, Husqvarna most assuredly researched this before pulling the trigger...

Stihl emulated their #1 competitor's anti-vibe, Husqvarna is now emulating thier #1 competitor's merchandising structure - it's good to know they are BOTH serious enough to evaluate each other's strengths and weaknesses...
 
Gee-whiz... WTH did all you "pro-internet sales" dudes do before retailers/dealers had Husqvarna's online... or on ebay.

Welcome to the world of real-saws.:hmm3grin2orange: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

You can argue that my saws are "overpriced" and that dealers suck... not in my neck of the woods. I'm happy as a pig in $*@#. So please, stay away from the evil Stihl dealers... there will be more saws for me that way.

Ya get what ya pay for.:D

Gary
 

Easy Sedanman, don't get on Ben tonight. Why, cause you, me ,Spike, Lakeside, Ultra and a host of others are gonna get a huge discount when we go lodging up at Ben's place. Yup he says the net is the way to go, adapt or die. Well I found alot of lodges a 1/3 the price of his so I know he will match since he's a big believer in adapt or die and the net competition. I'm sure he will practice what he preaches cause he's a man of his beliefs.

Ben you are gonna have to reduce your rates from 370.00 a nite to 125.00 for all of us, group discount ya know. We're not too worried about the service Ben or the size of the fish at your lake, we just want that discount price, ok. Tell the maids we'll make our own beds and tell the fish we're not bringing fishing poles. We gonna go the ruff like real men. We'll shoot our own food so that won't cost you anything, deduct that off the price too.

Boys get ya plane tickets for we're all going lodging at Ben's place as soon as he matches the price of 125.00 a nite.
 
Easy Sedanman, don't get on Ben tonight. Why, cause you, me ,Spike, Lakeside, Ultra and a host of others are gonna get a huge discount when we go lodging up at Ben's place. Yup he says the net is the way to go, adapt or die. Well I found alot of lodges a 1/3 the price of his so I know he will match since he's a big believer in adapt or die and the net competition. I'm sure he will practice what he preaches cause he's a man of his beliefs.

Ben you are gonna have to reduce your rates from 370.00 a nite to 125.00 for all of us, group discount ya know. We're not too worried about the service Ben or the size of the fish at your lake, we just want that discount price, ok. Tell the maids we'll make our own beds and tell the fish we're not bringing fishing poles. We gonna go the ruff like real men. We'll shoot our own food so that won't cost you anything, deduct that off the price too.

Boys get ya plane tickets for we're all going lodging at Ben's place as soon as he matches the price of 125.00 a nite.

THALL did you book us yet ??? 103Scooter and Sawinredneck want to come along too..


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Cant buy a Stihl for the price of a Poulan.......And what you are getting at is no where near analogous.


Now Ben. We aren't worried about any service you offer, keep all that. We just want the plain jane deal. We're coming to smell that fresh Canadain air, thats all. Keep the thrills, we're not interested in that, just a roof over our head is all were asking. We will shoot a moose and eat off of all week. So now whats it gonna be, cut the price or we go elsewhere??
 
Now Ben. We aren't worried about any service you offer, keep all that. We just want the plain jane deal. We're coming to smell that fresh Canadain air, thats all. Keep the thrills, we're not interested in that, just a roof over our head is all were asking. We will shoot a moose and eat off it all week. So now whats it gonna be, cut the price or we go elsewhere??

Yup, just want a place to rest my back and feet whilst I play poker and drink my Jack, just the basics, I'll bring what I need!
 
Yup, just want a place to rest my back and feet whilst I play poker and drink my Jack, just the basics, I'll bring what I need!


Brother Andrew your a big feller so don't be hogging the moose cause if his rates are 370.00 you know the food is outragous. We gotta stretch that moose for a week among the 10 of us.
 
Easy Sedanman, don't get on Ben tonight. Why, cause you, me ,Spike, Lakeside, Ultra and a host of others are gonna get a huge discount when we go lodging up at Ben's place. Yup he says the net is the way to go, adapt or die. Well I found alot of lodges a 1/3 the price of his so I know he will match since he's a big believer in adapt or die and the net competition. I'm sure he will practice what he preaches cause he's a man of his beliefs.

Ben you are gonna have to reduce your rates from 370.00 a nite to 125.00 for all of us, group discount ya know. We're not too worried about the service Ben or the size of the fish at your lake, we just want that discount price, ok. Tell the maids we'll make our own beds and tell the fish we're not bringing fishing poles. We gonna go the ruff like real men. We'll shoot our own food so that won't cost you anything, deduct that off the price too.

Boys get ya plane tickets for we're all going lodging at Ben's place as soon as he matches the price of 125.00 a nite.

Hey men, I can get us all a good group rate since my Mom is a travel agent. I never had much interest in the travel deal, unlike some "business people" I actually had the guts to start my own business.

And in keeping with the theme that all that matters is LOW PRICE, that's the only criteria we will use. There's this great outfit I found on the net for lowest airfare around. One of the ways they cut costs is that there are no technicians around to service the aircraft. They figure they can save money by not bothering with parts and service. The co-pilot has a few tools in the cockpit in case any in-air repairs are necessary. We have to bring our own little bags of peanuts too.

I'll bring my guitar so that when we all get to Ben's place we can have a sing along by the fire. Maybe we can get an extra discount by not using the little clock radios in the rooms. I might even have to write a song just for the occasion. Haven't written anything since "The Ballad of Sap".
 
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