110 leaded racing gas

[sachsmo]

Stopped by the only place in town that sells racing gas to see if they still had some.

Got 7.5 gallons for the saws, and using the Klotz Super Tecni-plate. (20% bean oil)

Man there ain't no better smelling exhaust!

The saws seem to run better also, think i better fill another 5 gallon jug before they run out.

Bet the 6 cube millin saws will be happy to run the good stuff.

 

[Roanoker494]

Leaded gas is okay in a 2 stroke? There is a couple places around me that sells the Cam 2 race fuel.

 

[GASoline71]

Yep... the lead helps to lubricate the valve seats...

Gary

 

[wigglesworth]

Yep... the lead helps to lubricate the valve seats...

Gary

Ummm....Gary, were talkin 2-smokers....

 

[Rescue1]

That is my all time favorite oil, and not just because of the smell. I used to run it in my high compression performance Waverunner engines. The engines always performed best with the Klotz, and were always clean inside. Of course back then I could afford to buy 5 gallons at a time. These days I can afford a single quart and every once in a while mix up a gallon just to run in the saws for nostalgia purposes..:monkey:.....:greenchainsaw:

 

[GASoline71]

Shhh... Wiggs... they think I know what I'm talkin' about...













Gary

 

[sachsmo]

My old Super 7-10 sure does like the 110, It runs equally well on e85, with a different tune.

 

[Bob Wright]

Leaded gas is okay in a 2 stroke?

Well since thats all there was in 1965 when my Echo CS-60S came out and Echo still makes them 45 years later with no changes to the motor i would say yes...Bob

 

[sachsmo]

Well since thats all there was in 1965 when my Echo CS-60S came out and Echo still makes them 45 years later with no changes to the motor i would say yes...Bob

They had white gas back then.

I remember the old wood ticks would swear by the stuff for small engines!

I just love the smell of good gas though.

 

[Roofgunner]

leaded 110

I had bought some 110 leaded for my Olds 442 showcar and like the exhaust color and protection of the valve seats. I doubt the lead would bother the two stroke unless there was a build-up. Probably the best benefit would be that there probably is no alchohol in this gas and would store better. I have a small Stihl 009L and back and PA. an Amish saw mech told me to run the high octane pump gas (90-93) in it because I had problems with reg. gas and it did help. I think I'll get 5 gallons for the Olds and mix some for the saws.

 

[Bob Wright]

They had white gas back then.

I remember the old wood ticks would swear by the stuff for small engines!

I just love the smell of good gas though.

We also had Premium that was real premium not like the stuff today. My owners man for my '71 T Bird says use only 110 octane. I don't have the car but i still have the motor...Bob

 

[Eccentric]

429 or 460 Bob?

We also had Premium that was real premium not like the stuff today. My owners man for my '71 T Bird says use only 110 octane. I don't have the car but i still have the motor...Bob

I still have the owners manual for my '64 Galaxy 9-passenger station wagon. Damn I wish I hadn't parted it out. With both rear benches folded flat, you could almost play basketball on the steel deck back there. That was one hell of a 'saw pickin' car. 4V FE390, FMX auto, factory dual exhausts, 500 pounds of chrome, seating for at least 9 (with cargo room to spare), electric rear window, etc. Saw pickin' in style...

Anywho.....the manual called for a minimum of something like 104 octane for the 300HP/425ft-lbs Thunderbird 390 that was in my car (have to dig the book out of storage to be sure), while the optional 4V and 8V 427's required a minimum of 109 octane gas IIRC...

 

[056kid]

Ok, unless your saws are pushing well over 200 psi,

you are actually losing power and money.

& your nice smelling exhaust is killing you much much quicker than pump gas. . .


The principal behind high test gasoline is to prevent detonation... The lower you go before you detonate, the more boom you get.

 

[Modifiedmark]

Ok, unless your saws are pushing well over 200 psi,

you are actually losing power and money.

& your nice smelling exhaust is killing you much much quicker than pump gas. . .


The principal behind high test gasoline is to prevent detonation... The lower you go before you detonate, the more boom you get.

Yep, higher octane helps prvent detonation but it wont hurt the saw any and he's not destroying fuel lines and carb diaphargms with it like this damn ethonal lace regular gas.

In the long run he will save money.

 

[blsnelling]

He's right. If anything, you will loose power with that high octane fuel.

 

[Modifiedmark]

He's right. If anything, you will loose power with that high octane fuel.

Not very much that I have seen.

 

[sachsmo]

He's right. If anything, you will loose power with that high octane fuel.

Prove it,

Did you or did you not see that pop-up in the pic?

You may have 30,000 posts, that sure don't make ya no rocket scientist!

 

[blsnelling]

Prove it,

Did you or did you not see that pop-up in the pic?

You may have 30,000 posts, that sure don't make ya no rocket scientist!

Who peed in your wheaties this morning? If he's over 200 PSI, then some of that octane may be required. I don't need to prove it. The science is already there. Google is your friend.

 

[Eccentric]

If you're that concerned about 'excess octane' of race gas, but don't have any other non-ethanol gas nearby, you can lower the effective octane level of said race gas by adding a quantity of Coleman camp fuel. The octane level of camp fuel is about 55. By doing a little math, you can easily figure out how much to add to get to a target octane level. For example:

Adding one quart of camp fuel to a gallon of 110 race gas will give you five total quarts of approximatley 96 octane fuel. Camp fuel won't hurt anything in your saw, and contains no ethanol. Costs about $10/gallon, but you're only using a quarter of that per five quarts of total fuel...

 

[ttyR2]

I'm curious about peoples fascination with castor-based two stroke oils. They were the deal back before current generation semi-synthetic and full synthetic oils came out, but they don't perform to the same level as moderl oils. Nobody at the local pro go-kart track uses castor oils, and none of the two stroke MX guys run it either.

If you just like the smell, get some of the scented additives that some snowmobile guys/girls run in their sleds. You can have bubblegum-scent if you want