sigh.. this is what I'm talking about, the cheaper 4hp echo is "way better" than the dearer 4.6hp pro-stihl... yeah, and I just saw a big flock of pink pigs flying past my window :still_dreaming:
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sigh.. this is what I'm talking about, the cheaper 4hp echo is "way better" than the dearer 4.6hp pro-stihl... yeah, and I just saw a big flock of pink pigs flying past my window :still_dreaming:
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hoeyrd2110
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man you guys are throwing around echo's book specs huh...doing the trolls dirty work are we?:rolleyes2:
come one let us echo guys have our mutual admiration society...you guys have the rest of the damn forum!:wink2:
come one let us echo guys have our mutual admiration society...you guys have the rest of the damn forum!:wink2:
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cambl
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Back to the original question.
Don't lump the Echo CS500P in with all of the other Echos sold at Home Depot. The CS500P is a Shindaiwa design, mag case, no CAT muffler, and will run with any other 50cc saw out there.
I suggest checking out the other threads, take the covers off of one, and take a look inside before you assume it's just another POS homeowner saw. If it was another shade of orange with a Swedish or German name it, they would be flying off of the dealer's shelves.
Don't lump the Echo CS500P in with all of the other Echos sold at Home Depot. The CS500P is a Shindaiwa design, mag case, no CAT muffler, and will run with any other 50cc saw out there.
I suggest checking out the other threads, take the covers off of one, and take a look inside before you assume it's just another POS homeowner saw. If it was another shade of orange with a Swedish or German name it, they would be flying off of the dealer's shelves.
Hahahaahahaha!!!
I had to show you guys this...sorry if it is old news to ya....
[video=youtube_share;KmJMXVhvV6I]http://youtu.be/KmJMXVhvV6I[/video]
Guess thats one way to speed em up....post production edit speed up that is!
I had to show you guys this...sorry if it is old news to ya....
[video=youtube_share;KmJMXVhvV6I]http://youtu.be/KmJMXVhvV6I[/video]
Guess thats one way to speed em up....post production edit speed up that is!
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hoeyrd2110
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sorry to inform yah but i'd watch the clothes on the lines behind him....it's not sped up
good try thoughi can't bet yah that that ain't no work saw though, hes got a vid of an 8000 too thats a total bad ass
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sorry to inform yah but i'd watch the clothes on the lines behind him....it's not sped up
i can't bet yah that that ain't no work saw though, hes got a vid of an 8000 too thats a total bad ass
Good eye on the clothes, that doesn't look like very solid wood either. We've seen marshmellow wood in quite a few vids on here. Steve
I've got a 40cc Red Max over here, built good but less power than the CS400 both muff modded. The Echo handles better also. Steve
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Actually, turns out this guy builds hotsaws and this one is his stock apperance one....flame away, and then after that watch this...
[video=youtube_share;73JF-GdIIGs]http://youtu.be/73JF-GdIIGs[/video]
Thought it sounded too much like a rabid yellowjacket to not be sped up....I have seen other members modded, respectable cutting echos on youtube. Wonder if this guy is a member here?
hiluxxulih
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I dont know much about the power of the Echo Vs the Stihl and dont care but I know the Echo actually starts and the Stihl MS362 was a crap shoot as far as starting 90% of the time , now my Stilhl 044 always starts with zero drama and my MS250 is also a crap shoot as far as starting , and yes I know how to start a chainsaw , all be damned if I am going to say three hail marries while doing jumping jacks to start a $600 saw
zogger
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I dont know much about the power of the Echo Vs the Stihl and dont care but I know the Echo actually starts and the Stihl MS362 was a crap shoot as far as starting 90% of the time , now my Stilhl 044 always starts with zero drama and my MS250 is also a crap shoot as far as starting , and yes I know how to start a chainsaw , all be damned if I am going to say three hail marries while doing jumping jacks to start a $600 saw
My buddies cs400 is the same way...2 pulls and it is off and runnin. My former ms170 was 2-3 to pop and 2-3 to start...as are most of them that I have seen including my cousins. I am sure the lack of a primer bulb plays a huge part in this.
indiansprings
Firewood Purveyor
As promised compression ratio's of Echo's , you need to pay attention some engines are made by Kioritz and the newer saws are running Yamabiko's.
CS-310 6:7-1
CS-320 6.8-1
CS-370 7.3-1
CS-400 6:5-1 cat muffler
CS-450 7:1-1
CS-500p 7:8-1 Yamabiko do not exceed 12,500 according to mfg's specs out of the box 11,700-11.800
CS-550 7:2-1
CS-600 6.8-1 Kioritz
CS-680 7.6-1 Kioritz
CS-8000 7:6-1 Kioritz
CS -271T 6.6-1 Yamabiko
Trimmers is were they get down in the 5's
Just an example GT 225 5.9-1
The newer strats engines are being made by Yamabiko and the older designs are still being made by Kioritz using cat muffler's to get by the EPA
My biggest concern is how we as dealers are supposed to compete with the internet pricing being lower than our cost, regardless of performance or any other issue, it is VERY frustrating to have folks walk in with printed off EBAY pricing on new saws in the box cheaper than we can buy them, it is a subject I'm bringing up next week at the ECHO Shinny Update meeting, how we have to put cash out to carry parts, and keep techs and Home Depot/ Regional Farm chains don't have to carry parts, pay for techs and have as low or lower pricing than a long term dealer. The distribution thing is very frustrating. I don't blame the guys buying them 50.00 to over a 100.00 cheaper than we could even begin to sell them based on our cost from Echo,but it is a bite in the azz for dealers.
Any reasonable person could see from a business standpoint were it is very frustrating.
CS-310 6:7-1
CS-320 6.8-1
CS-370 7.3-1
CS-400 6:5-1 cat muffler
CS-450 7:1-1
CS-500p 7:8-1 Yamabiko do not exceed 12,500 according to mfg's specs out of the box 11,700-11.800
CS-550 7:2-1
CS-600 6.8-1 Kioritz
CS-680 7.6-1 Kioritz
CS-8000 7:6-1 Kioritz
CS -271T 6.6-1 Yamabiko
Trimmers is were they get down in the 5's
Just an example GT 225 5.9-1
The newer strats engines are being made by Yamabiko and the older designs are still being made by Kioritz using cat muffler's to get by the EPA
My biggest concern is how we as dealers are supposed to compete with the internet pricing being lower than our cost, regardless of performance or any other issue, it is VERY frustrating to have folks walk in with printed off EBAY pricing on new saws in the box cheaper than we can buy them, it is a subject I'm bringing up next week at the ECHO Shinny Update meeting, how we have to put cash out to carry parts, and keep techs and Home Depot/ Regional Farm chains don't have to carry parts, pay for techs and have as low or lower pricing than a long term dealer. The distribution thing is very frustrating. I don't blame the guys buying them 50.00 to over a 100.00 cheaper than we could even begin to sell them based on our cost from Echo,but it is a bite in the azz for dealers.
Any reasonable person could see from a business standpoint were it is very frustrating.
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