Slamm
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I know, and to think you married into the same gene pool, LOL.
Just playing,
Sam
So how do you feel
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I know, and to think you married into the same gene pool, LOL.
Just playing,
Sam
Not a big fan of too much regulation here. Some things of course need regulations, I.E., the previously mentioned a-bomb. My belief is that gross negligence is what needs to be punished. Cut a tree from a ladder and it hits power lines, you go to prison. Drive drunk and hurt someone or worse, you go to prison. Use a firearm to commit a crime, yup, you go to prison. And not some candy azz, cable tv and a/c prison. I say we get some work out of these people. Pick up trash at a local park, fill some pot holes, run a jackhammer, etc. If we only sold saws to pros the we would not have James the Narcoleptic Tree Cutter. Maybe we just need an island to send all the dumb people to. Packing my bags as we speak. LOL
stihlman32
ArboristSite Operative
Sell saws to anyone. It's not the saw's fault you're a dumba$$. If the operator doesn't have enough respect for himself or his tools to read, research, and understand how to use and maintain them properly the he should end up 6ft under. Fall off a ladder and kill yourself with your Wild Thing, oh well, should have studied up. Drop a tree on yourself because you don't know what you're doing, bye bye take your kids with you! The Nanny State can suck it, I don't want or need its protection! Let the heard thin itself out!
Fish
Tree Freak
Yep, I am keeping that defective flywheel I replaced for that e-bay
buyer, he even sent back that little sheared key.
jerryw66
ArboristSite Guru
I agree there's a lot of idiots running saws and wanting to be lumberjacks, but we can't regulate everything, If everybody had to take an aptitude test to run a dangerous tool, nothing would get done. It's sort of like lowering the speed limits to 10 mph, it would definitely save lives, but at the cost of bringing the nation to a crawl.
StihlyinEly
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What I see is, too many saws end up in untrained hands. Should there be some sort of certification before ownership. I have seen to many homeowners lately cutting from 40 foot ladders. I never understood doit yourself on some things. I wonder if these guys doing this stuff pull their own teeth
You can't protect people from their own carelessness/stupidity, and we've built a society that spends billions and billions of tax dollars annually trying to do just that.
So I voted with what has so far amounted to the vast majority.
Good poll!
Jchevytruckman
ArboristSite Operative
Well from my own experience I ran an old craftsman saw for about 3years before I brought my own saw. I went from a little 30cc up to a 70cc saw. I felt comfortable for doing it. On the other hand the Stihl dealer I bought the saw from told me they were offing a safety class, free to attend if I wanted. Also they offered a basic maintenance and care class. The safety class only took about 45mins and went over the basic information. I really enjoyed the class. I feel that John Q Public should not be able to walk into Wal Mart and just buy a saw. They should only be able to get them from a dealer with a simple safety class. I know if I get hurt from my saw and end up in the ER I don't have health insurance and the cost of the visit gets passed to the public and those that are insured.
THALL10326
The Champ
What I see is, too many saws end up in untrained hands. Should there be some sort of certification before ownership. I have seen to many homeowners lately cutting from 40 foot ladders. I never understood doit yourself on some things. I wonder if these guys doing this stuff pull their own teeth
Rope they are doing that up on the ladder sawing so they don't have to pay you, you guys charge more than them dayumm Stihl dealers, no wonder people would rather climb a 40foot ladder than call a arborsit,LOLOLOLOLOL
Kingsley
ArboristSite Guru
The LAST thing we need now is more government restrictions!!!!
webie
ArboristSite Operative
B and C .Definately not A as I can buy probably one or two saws and still have money left
webie
ArboristSite Operative
OK...I wouldn't be one of the six...BOO HOO!
But when I go to the saw dealer and buy a saw it does come with an owner's manual that carefully details the saw's basic parts, there's chapters on safety, chapters on proper tree felling techniques, chapters on cutting wood on the ground and timber under pressure. Pretty informative...if someone takes the time to read it.
When you go to the gun dealer and buy a gun...you take a lame 20 question test, wait 10 days, take a ridiculous handgun proficiency test...but after that...you get a gun.
Do we really want the government to regulate chainsaws?
Wait you have to be able to read first , that might be part of the problem .
Zombiechopper
Addicted to ArboristSite
let them kill themselves. who cares! World is overpopulated anyways
andrethegiant70
Addicted to ArboristSite
Just a thought.... maybe it comes down to good parenting and having good schools. If parents fall down on the job (we've covered this already), maybe the schools can take a crack at it. People have to get common sense and knowledge from somewhere as it doesn't appear to fall out of the sky. Also, a few other topics need to be focused on EARLY, I think...
1. Safety
2. Thinking beyond your own personal needs
3. Consideration for others
4. Critical thinking
5. Self evaluation
1. Safety
2. Thinking beyond your own personal needs
3. Consideration for others
4. Critical thinking
5. Self evaluation
Lunchbox
ArboristSite Member
Maybe they ought to have a special liscence ,after passing a test WE get to shoot stupid people ?? why leave it to thier inept selves,they probly screw THAT up too !!
LB
Lunchbox
ArboristSite Member
I too would like to live in that utopia,that castle in the clouds with all the pretty butterflies and pretty flowers where everything is good and right
people CARING about others and all that fantasy stuff..
GET REAL MAN !! your talking about a breed of animal just barely removed from having thier knuckles dragging on the ground while walking !!
a populace were half the occupants think it' ok to have thier children blow themselves up in a religiouse war !!
a society were SUE EM ! is a byword,,,, kids that wear thier underwear on the outside and pants on the ground !!
it's a SAD place man,, all we can do if you are concerned is to live by and teach your children , numbers 1 thru 5..
let anarchy rule awhile and clean the mess up !!
then give "rope" the nuke and let him make a few deserts
live the best you can and pass it along as an example..
...
LB
stihlman32
ArboristSite Operative
Maybe they ought to have a special liscence ,after passing a test WE get to shoot stupid people ?? why leave it to thier inept selves,they probly screw THAT up too !!
LB
:agree2:+1...Where can I sign up for that license?
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
Tommy the ones I see doing it can easily afford my rates especially if you count the hospital stay<a href="http://www.sweetim.com/s.asp?im=gen&lpver=3&ref=11" target="_blank"><img src="http://content.sweetim.com/sim/cpie/emoticons/000203F2.gif" border="0" title="Click to get more." ></a>
willsaw4beer
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I could see there being an expensive surcharge on a chainsaw for people who don't have a safety certification. That way it would be more worthwhile for a homeowner to just call in the pro's. And the certification should be free or very cheap but reliant on a person actually displaying some sort of sense and competence at least that way it wouldn't be much of a hindrance to someone who cuts their own firewood but is not a professional.
