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Opinions on saws in the $400-450 range.
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fearofpavement
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I'm the one that invited Vol to a mini GTG. I don't think I communicated it well though. I was talking about just him and me and he could try out an array of saws and get a better idea of which ones do what. I couldn't do it right away but maybe once my schedule gets more sane. He's within an hour of me.
I could probably make a line up of at least six different models.
I could probably make a line up of at least six different models.
T'was hoping for a 3rd annual GTG, thinking that I might make it to one some day. Ron
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I'd be glad to assist.
fearofpavement
Trying them all
Groundi and I have discussed it, there's just a lot going on in our lives right now and we're not really able to plan any major events. Something shorter term may be able to be put together. I'm pretty booked up until about the end of August...
Pray all is well. It is about too hot now anyway. Ron
It is definitely too hot. Looks like it's going to be a very hot summer.
fearofpavement
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Nothing bad, just a lot of things on a very long list next to limited time. Also have extensive out of state and out of country travel in the next 3 months.
The only problem I see with the 620 is that it's already 100$ more than a 600p and a dolmar 6100 is already cheaper than a 600p by 50$ and runs right with the 620p.
Are these really medium duty saws like the OP wants in post 1. The echo 60cc are talked about like they are almost the size of a 70cc saw. The Dolmar 6100 from the bucking spike to the center of the sprocket is pretty massive six inches or so the cut ability and called bar length are not too close. I have noted before "problems" with the Echo 60cc offerings, the inability to put a .325 sprocket on it that is less than 9 teeth being the main one. It looks to me like a Husqvarna 545 can be had on ebay delivered for $440 at this time I would point to that if diverting from the original list. I guess inboard vs outboard clutch isn't a determining factor in this thread.
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Why in the world would you put a .325 b&c on a 60cc saw?
3/8" 20" in the gauge of your choice.
Sell the 290 with the .325.
Actually .325 with a 8 pin possibly even a 9 on something with the power AND rpm's of a 562 might be a lot of fun in Georgia pine...
I don't know the Echo's so really can't comment. In the 15 years I've been here I've never seen one, my loss from what it sounds like. Just they are like the Ghost saw. Hear about them here and there are a few places that sell them locally. Never had one show up either at the farm or at the GTG's. Never saw one in the woods with other's logging it either. Some what interested in that 590 from all the chatter online.
I don't know the Echo's so really can't comment. In the 15 years I've been here I've never seen one, my loss from what it sounds like. Just they are like the Ghost saw. Hear about them here and there are a few places that sell them locally. Never had one show up either at the farm or at the GTG's. Never saw one in the woods with other's logging it either. Some what interested in that 590 from all the chatter online.
Have seen a bunch of 455/460 and red variants. They are new in that price range .. a lot is made about the fact they are mostly plastic and clam shell's. Also they are heavy for what they are. What I do know is they are reliable to a fault...I've had 2 455's and got bored got rid of them and found myself looking to get another, as I am right now. And if anyone hasn't noticed, I can have pretty much any saw I choose from my own garage. I've seen them or the Jonsered's on sale for $350 from time to time. a 460 can be had for $450 all day long new in the box. They don't use a lot of fuel. They always start. And rarely go back to a dealer for work. May not win any races, but they have cut a lot of wood over the years! I have a 465 on loan in the truck right now, it's a really nice saw but have to say those 460 are a bargain. We spend way too much time on the theoretical here at times. Many won't bring them into the discussion for fear of the repercussions from the enthusiasts of one brand or another. I say BS to that. LOL! Great saws for the person who needs one from time to time and has a large range of situations to deal with.
The Dolmar 6100 will work with your small mount Husky bars and small spline Oregon sprockets. The 590 comes with a spur sprocket, the standard spline drum seems only available from Echo and I am not sure how necessary the exact echo bar mount code is.
Actually REALLY interesting in that Dolmar 6100 after the GTG up at The Cutting Edge. Just feel I should have one of those. But my interest doesn't mean those 460's aren't a great option.
I figure it is less dangerous. I have plenty of it and the 3/8 is supposed to use the other spinner anvil. 60cc saws come with .325 in other parts of the world. Putting 3/8 on 50cc saws seems more popular around here.
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The AV on the 600 series Echo's is excellent. I agree with you that the air filtration on your 6100 is a better quality setup than the 590/600/620. But I've not had any problems with the air filtration doing it's job on the Echo's. They seem to work just fine.
I've been saying for a while now that I was going to start doing some comparison vids between the Echo's. Well, I just did a good comparison between my ported 600p and my mostly stock 620p (deflector cut out/tab deleted). The 620p got it's butt kicked by the 600p (which I expected). Cutting a 23" pine log at 6500 feet elevation and both saws using the same 24" b&c: The 600p averaged 23.7 seconds per cut vs. the 620p's 28 second average. And here's something that might surprise some people: In the same 23" log, my ported 500p (20" b&c) was only five seconds slower than the 620p (33 seconds).
I bought the 600p brand new off Ebay for $400. For that price, porting is easier to justify. To say I'm impressed with the 600p is an understatement. I bucked 15, 30" Red Fir rounds today before leaving camp with that saw. It isn't broke in yet but I'm still amazed at how it cuts and the almost instant throttle response. For a total cost of less than a 562xp, it will hand the Husky it's butt all day long (bucking). Yes, it's not fair to compare a ported saw to a non ported. The point is, when comparing the power vs. price ratio, the 562xp falls short because of it's higher price.
If the 590's performance is anything like the 600p's, it would be hard to pass up at the prices they sell for. I don't think there's much difference (performance wise) between the two from the research I've done. I just watched Andre's vid comparing his MM'd & tuned 590 vs. his stock 562xp. The 562 cut faster but not by much and the 590 is a home owner saw!
2 second on a 11 second average is better than 10 percent. 
And a MM on a 562 done right will pick up another second or two.. Something I am familiar with and can quantify. SO depending who's watching this, they may come to different conclusions. I'm going to guess all things equal based on that video the 562 is going to be 20 percent faster or possibly even more in that situation. That's a lot. Why would that be? Wonder how a 6100 with a MM would perform relative to those saws?
And a MM on a 562 done right will pick up another second or two.. Something I am familiar with and can quantify. SO depending who's watching this, they may come to different conclusions. I'm going to guess all things equal based on that video the 562 is going to be 20 percent faster or possibly even more in that situation. That's a lot. Why would that be? Wonder how a 6100 with a MM would perform relative to those saws?
